Krismc
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| posted on 13/5/06 at 04:15 PM |
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VIDEO CAPTURING!
Im wanting a new digi video camera, it needs the be small and light and able to work with a bullet camera in my kit car!!
And is it easy to get them uploaded onto the net??
Any ideas??? 
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Macbeast
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| posted on 13/5/06 at 04:31 PM |
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Whatever camera you get, make sure it has external video input allowing recording. In many video cameras, the external input is inhibited because the
EU says recording from external source (your bullet camera ) turns the camera into a VCR which attracts a higher rate of import duty.
Sorry, I've never uploaded video to the net, but no doubt someone on here has 
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birdii
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| posted on 13/5/06 at 05:15 PM |
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I have just bought myself a Mini DV cam with it in mind that in the future i'll use a bullet cam.
I got an Canon MVX35i from Comet, £300. You struggle to get much cheaper with an AV input thats needed for the bullet cams. I think the cheapest AV in
DV cam I found was also from Comet and it was a JVC. It is a bit cheaper on the Comet's web page than in store, price was £240 i think. Apart
from these i couldn't find much else about, alot of stores don't have any Camcorders with input recordings.
Uploading to the net should be quite straight forward with the right capture software. If anyone has any advice on what software is good then
i'm very interested! For some strange reason you only seem to get photo software with alot of camcorders, no video stuf and no Firewire cable to
transfer the vid to pc!
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Tangerine Scream
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| posted on 13/5/06 at 06:23 PM |
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How about this sports camcorder from Samsung?
Link
Especially if you haven't a bullet cam yet.
Think they haven't made it to the UK yet but there's always a way
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Tim 45
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| posted on 13/5/06 at 08:33 PM |
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Ive just got one of these. Has an AV in and stores to solid state
media...good for about 2 hours recording time in one go. Only £92!
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Krismc
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| posted on 13/5/06 at 10:25 PM |
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when you get it tell me how Good it is and what bullet camera have you went for??
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OX
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 12:23 AM |
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iv also just brought the canon mvx 30i ,the cheapest i could find one on the net for was £650 then looked on the comet website and its £300 so grabbed
one before they realised there mistake .it didnt come with the dv lead that you need to get the video onto your pc tho.i then brought a 480 line
bullet cam from www.dogcamsport.co.uk/ but i wish id gone for the 420 line one now as you reduce the quality so much to show it over the net that
theres hardly any difference also the lens on the 420 is held in with a grub screw but the 480 is held in place with a sealant which lets the lens
unscrew and goes out of focus
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bimbleuk
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 07:37 AM |
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If you're buying mainly for bullet cam capture then you might as well go for a cheaper DV camcorder.
As above www.dogcamsport.co.uk or even better now www.fastfilms.co.uk for your mounts and accessories.
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Krismc
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 11:31 AM |
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mainly just to use as a bullet cam, so all reccomend the 420 version,?? ill check out al them websites
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Krismc
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 11:31 AM |
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So just to clarify the prices are.....
dog cams...
£79.00 400
£150.00 for 420
£179.00 for 520
fast films
£108 for 420
£126 for 480
£130 for 520
Are these resonable prices, i would get the 420 or 520 but im still confused on what is better for uploading to net and better for recording!!
....im very interested in this kit for £300....
1 x 3 way a/v switch
2 x Pro 480 cameras (with mounts)
2 x Mic
2 x Battery holders
.....and why cant i just use a camera on a mount or can i use other recording device for the bullet camera!
[Edited on 14/5/06 by Krismc]
[Edited on 14/5/06 by Krismc]
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Krismc
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 11:59 AM |
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GROUP BUY ON FAST FILMS for £169 including p&P
520 bullet kit + lens
1 x additional lens of choice
Spare lens cover
Safety tether
Triple cup suction mount OR Super clamp + double ball tilt head.
Payment in advance is needed, delivery will be arranged once we have received five confirmed orders.
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Krismc
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 12:10 PM |
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one said you got a
quote: iv also just brought the canon mvx 30i from comet for £300
and sumone else said a mvx35i from comet for £300.......what is difference just cause the mvx 30 is the only one i can see @ £289
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JoelP
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 12:17 PM |
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i want a set up too, so keep me posted on the group buy thing. Anyone confirm that the stuff listed above and one of those canon thingies will be
enough for incar vids? 
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flak monkey
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 12:23 PM |
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All you need is this:
A bullet cam kit with a mic. Dont bother with a power supply its easy to add one to your loom! £100 from dogcamsport.
A Neuros solid state digital video recorder. Stores videos on 1Gb memory cards. Can store nearly up to 3 hours at most. You can get 2 hour of good
quality footage. You can get these for £100 delivered on eBay.
Thats all you need. £200 all in. Cheaper than buying a camcorder!
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Krismc
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 12:23 PM |
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yea well after all morning researching, the samsung with built in bullet has very bad reviews and software errors etc!
the canon seems expensive and the...
NISIS Pocket DV-M1 Digital Video Camcorder for only £92 which records in MP4 format and can be used as a web cam etc is more than worth its money im
ordering on off those i think but would like a review from sumone with one first??
or the neuros as stated above ive seen these on the web but seemed expensive, but for £100 that seems ok!
and i think i might go for the more expensive dog cam for £150 if no one is doing a group buy!
[Edited on 14/5/06 by Krismc]
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JoelP
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 01:20 PM |
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has anyone bought a neuros off ebay? Recommend a good seller? Best i could find was £120.
Is there any way to save money by using my phone? It does video recording anyway. Taping it to the roll bar might be a bit extreme though, and im
guessing it doesnt have an av in feature! Its an N70.
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Tim 45
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 06:02 PM |
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Well you wanted a review, so...
Went out for a ride in the car and used the NISIS as a camera, the bullet is arriving this week, i must say im so far impressed by the quality of this
thing, apart from some blockiness at a certain point, the rest of the 10min video was fine. I have uploaded a sample video of the camera
here.
Hope this helps.
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JoelP
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 06:15 PM |
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not bad that, certainly showed what happened. Was the blockyness caused by the camera, the storage or the upload? Cheers!
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Tim 45
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 06:55 PM |
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It could have been any of those...it may have been because it was going fast, changing direction, adjusting the light levels, vibrating at a high
frequency and then trying to write to the card...didnt experience anything else though..
BTW any blockiness on that video is caused by degredation in quality through the web upload or video editing.
Will post another video when the bullet arrives.
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Tim 45
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 07:18 PM |
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Have uploaded the video again but in high resolution, this is much truer to the video quality direct from the camera. See the new video
HERE
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OX
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 07:36 PM |
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i still think it will take some to beat a cam corder/digital recorder and bullet. but will have to wait and see what yours is like when you get
yours
i reduced this to 340kbs the quality has been reduced and the sound isnt great buts its still ok
clip
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Krismc
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 08:50 PM |
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Good lad, dont like to see a round about with out a little tail slide, even if it was a little weak!!
camera is brill though!
what is your set up??
...and has anyone use a cam from ebay they are darn cheap???
and a even better question i just turned up my speakers and blew them on my computer- pink smoke how nice! is ebay the cheapest place for these too!
(darn ive hijacked my own thread) 
[Edited on 14/5/06 by Krismc]
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OX
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 09:05 PM |
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hehe weak indeed,shamefull nearly .
canon mvx30i with 480 bulletcam
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Krismc
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 09:53 PM |
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i see from your profile you are building a layer of rubber on roundabouts !
.........slowly i see
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Krismc
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| posted on 14/5/06 at 10:25 PM |
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well i won that ebay bid but only got one, i wanted 2!!
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