JackNco
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 12:30 AM |
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Smart roadster BEC
Just been reading online. after reading power 2 weight ratios n 0-60 times im tempted to abandon ideas of a seven for something more practical but
still fun.
Does anyone know much about the BEC Smart Roadsters?
Ive contacted Zcars for Subframe prices. and such. but until now ive had no interest in BECs.
I know nothing about the BECs and no idea where to start looking so all u BEC guys any advice and guidance.
Thanx in advance
John
[Edited on 15/11/06 by JackNco]
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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Danozeman
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 06:50 AM |
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Have a look here
I have been searching but can only find places to do a conversion for you. The normal smarts arnt that practical as the engines beside you!!
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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locoboy
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 08:02 AM |
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i noticed that when i looked on youtube for GSXR smart car, why does it have to be positioned beside the driver?
ATB
Locoboy
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smart51
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 08:04 AM |
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You think the normal smart isn't practical, you'll hate the roadster! The normal smart weighs about 800kg and the roadster seems to be
made of exactly the same stuff so will be about the same. A bit heavy for a BEC really.
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 09:09 AM |
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I keep telling this to people but they wont have it ofcourse theyve never owned a BEC but I have so what would I know
so heres my advice mate
my MK r1 was 460kg plus me 120kg ballistic performance
plus passenger of 90kg still ballisitic
but if you added a slightly heavier passenger the car would just bog down and to me it would struggle until 10krpm
the heavier passneger still thought it was excellent
so theres no way a smart car would weigh less than 600kg so your already equivalent to my car and the driver
then youll add your weight
eytc etc
I went in an r1 mini and it was fun but again struggles at low revs
[Edited on 15/11/06 by zxrlocost]
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StevieB
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 11:38 AM |
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I've just sold a smart roadter - it was absolutely fine in terms of practicality, handled nearly as well as my Elise did too. The only problem
was the gearbox (the standard engine is ok really).
Put a GSXR engine into one and you're laughing.
A bike engine should fit in the back fine as it's a more traditional mid engined payout and a much bigger car than the normal fortwo. Best to
go for the coupe version though - it'll give you a bit more space to play with.
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smart51
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 12:38 PM |
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The thing to be ware of is that a smart engine leans back over the rear axle to fit in the space behind the seats. A bike engine leans forwards and
so may not fit in the smart's engine bay.
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JackNco
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 01:42 PM |
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Smarts wight is about 815kg i think. so i think u are all right to heavy for a bike. guess im sticking with a 7 then
Cheers for all the replies
John
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 02:58 PM |
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Imho you would need under 550kg unless you had a busa or zx12 then you could be a bit lenient with weight but not much
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akumabito
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 03:54 PM |
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Well I just posted a video of a forTwo with a GSXR engine, and it seems fun enough.. 
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JackNco
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 03:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by akumabito
Well I just posted a video of a forTwo with a GSXR engine, and it seems fun enough..
Did u?
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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JackNco
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 03:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zxrlocost
Imho you would need under 550kg unless you had a busa or zx12 then you could be a bit lenient with weight but not much
I was thinking a Busa engine
But these things only have 80bhp, so an upgrade to 180 cant be bad, or is it all about torque with bike engines? the problems i mean?
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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akumabito
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 04:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JackNco
quote:
Originally posted by akumabito
Well I just posted a video of a forTwo with a GSXR engine, and it seems fun enough..
Did u?
Yeah, in another thread just yesterday... lemme find the video again
Clicky!
It seems to be going sideways, mostly...
[Edited on 15/11/06 by akumabito]
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JackNco
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| posted on 15/11/06 at 04:12 PM |
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oh ya i saw that, was that other thread that got me thinking. cool sound track on it as well. but ide be scared of tipping a city car
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 09:25 AM |
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akumabito Its impressive because it sounds good and is doing donuts I could do that in any rear wheel drived car
dont let me put you off it would still be fun and rev to 12kprm etc which is a selling point
the bike engine probably creates more torque than the original smart engine anyway
the only thing is race 1 litre bike engines when in a car do absolutely nothing till at least 4kprm and youd feel that difference even more with an
extra 250kg
like I said for ultimate performance you need 550kg and less
400kg would be a stormer
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JackNco
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 10:03 AM |
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i wasnt really after ultimate performance, just a roadster thats faster than average
Some people are worried about the difference between right and wrong. I'm worried about the difference between wrong and fun.
O'Rourke, P.J. (1989), Holidays in hell. London (Picador)
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 16/11/06 at 10:36 AM |
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I mean ultimate as in the engines general potential
ie going back to the engine not doing much till 4-5 k rpm
like I said Ive had one and I know the drag it caused with extra weight.
by all means get one it would be a laugh and be quick but no quicker than a decent hot hatch so in the end would you be dissapointed?
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