whitestu
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 01:11 PM |
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Getting P certification
We are in dispute with the firm that did some building work and I suspect they will hold on to the P certificate.
Anyone know how easy / expensive it is to get electrical work P certified seperately after work has been done?
Thanks
Stu
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andyharding
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 01:17 PM |
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By P certified I assume you mean get a completion certificate issued by building control (Part P)? And that it is a dwelling i.e. house not business?
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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whitestu
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 01:20 PM |
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Hi
Yes, I mean the P certificate for the wiring as the building inspector wants to see this before he will issue our certificate of lawfulness.
It is a house, not a business
Thanks
Stu
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macnab
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 01:25 PM |
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To be honest I did all the wiring in my house, got a sparky to check it and he signed it off. no problem
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andyharding
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 01:28 PM |
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No such thing as a P cert. If a spark is registered with a Part P scheme when he has completed a job he notifies the scheme operator and they notify
building control directly. Building control then issue a completion notice/cert/whatever.
If the spark is not part p registered or hasn't notified correctly the installation will need a periodic inspection and the report along with
schedules of tests and results should be enough for building control to issue you completion cert.
My local building control are happy to accept my own testing results because I am a qualified spark with C&G 2381 and 2391. If I wasn't they
would send their own electrician to test the installation themselves.
You need to ask the inspector (not a receptionist) if they want to test the install or you should get a spark to do it. Either way they will charge
you a fee to issue the cert.
The other option is to get a part P spark to check it over and process it like he did the install himself. Lots of sparks will do this but it is not
correct and if he gets caught you may be back to square one.
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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whitestu
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 01:28 PM |
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Was he someone you knew already? A couple we have phoned say they would never certify someone else's work.
Stu
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whitestu
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 01:31 PM |
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Thanks Andy
I'll call the building inspector and ask if they can test it [or recommend someone who can].
Cheers
Stu
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andyharding
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 01:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
Was he someone you knew already? A couple we have phoned say they would never certify someone else's work.
Stu
That's cause they could have his balls if he's caught. Best thing to do is tell building control your spark has stitched you up and ask
how they would like you to proceed. The receptionists are twats so make sure you speak directly to an inspector. Most are decent people and if you ask
their opinion like everyone love to hear their own voices so will be happy to help. If you play by their rules you know you will be above board.
My BC charge £200 to inspect and installation and issue the completion cert.
Are you a Mac user or a retard?
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whitestu
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 01:40 PM |
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Thanks Andy
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bartonp
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 02:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
We are in dispute with the firm that did some building work and I suspect they will hold on to the P certificate.
Anyone know how easy / expensive it is to get electrical work P certified seperately after work has been done?
Thanks
Stu
If this is for work done as part of a building notice (or full plans application) then the BCO is not allowed to charge extra for electrical
inspection....this was spelled out recently in an updated version of part Pee after a some councils were found taking the Piss...
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PeterW
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 03:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bartonp
quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
We are in dispute with the firm that did some building work and I suspect they will hold on to the P certificate.
Anyone know how easy / expensive it is to get electrical work P certified seperately after work has been done?
Thanks
Stu
If this is for work done as part of a building notice (or full plans application) then the BCO is not allowed to charge extra for electrical
inspection....this was spelled out recently in an updated version of part Pee after a some councils were found taking the Piss...
The only problem is that you may find the BCO wants to inspect your first fix wiring, and if you've finished the dry line, you'll be
chopping walls to find it...
Not ideal !
Cheers
Peter
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Aboardman
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 03:41 PM |
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quote:
where for instance a kitchen fitter might not be competent enought to fill out paperwork himself, so he just runs all the wires and the company sparky
connects and tests himself. Thats with a nationwide company too.
hope it is not kitchen direct or moben, 
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Avoneer
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 06:12 PM |
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Would you like a kitchen fitted by this man above ???
Watch you fingers!
Pat
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whitestu
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 07:28 PM |
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Its not kitchen direct or Moben!
The building inspector has inspected part way through so he may have seen the wiring runs.
To be honest I don't object too much to paying the money just to get the whole thing finished, as I can't see any other way of sorting it
out.
The contractors for the job [loft conversion] still have lots of small jobs to do and I think they will hold on to the electrical certification until
we have paid them the final £500 quid, although they seem to have no intention of doing the outstanding work.
Getting the council to do it would bring some closure and we can finish the outstanding bits ourselves.
Thanks
Stu
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steve matt
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 08:06 PM |
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Hi mate, something I can answer at last! They're not legally allowed to hold back on issuing the certificate, regardless of whether
they've been paid or not. If you want to get funny with them you can report them to building control. What somebody said about the electrical
testing being covered on original permission, is different around the country, round here they charge you £175 I think, and you would have to have
told them from start so they can inspect first fix etc. So if i was you id call company and tell them building control said they have to supply
certificate, do you know who they are registered with by the way.
I'm part p registered spark, so get in touch if theyr'e still not playing ball
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dnmalc
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| posted on 8/1/07 at 08:14 PM |
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Steve
I note it is your first post welcome. The addition of further expertise is always welcome Cheers
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