Findlay234
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 12:07 PM |
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Towing 4WD??
Hi guys, just buying a lada niva for some traveling im going to be doing this summer. (plan to drive to bejing with a friend)
the one weve been looking at is quite a distance from us and were looking at either getting a trailer or towing it. ive been told that towing a
permenant 4WD is not a good idea even with putting the transfer box into neutral. could i remove the propshafts and tow it that way?
I know a trailer is the best option and we can get one for free from someone we know but it means two 300mile round trips (the trailer we can use is
located near the car were buying doh)
any ideas or is there anyone in the Nottingham-loughborough-leicester area thats willing to lend me a trailer for a day?
cheers
fin
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macnab
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 12:12 PM |
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Don’t know who told you that but it's total nonsense.
Having it in 4wd simply lowers the loads on the diffs. Their quite sturdy machines anyway.
Only thing I can think that they mean is that if your machine does not have a central diff then having it in 4wd on the road will cause tyre scrub. I
that case I would select 2wd and only put it in 4wd on hills or mud etc.
Removing the prop shaft or half shafts only disables you if you get stuck. Basically a stupid thing to do.
[Edited on 25/1/07 by macnab]
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wilkingj
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 12:27 PM |
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Im not familiar with the Lada, However, they are as tough as old boots, even if a little underpowered.
You need to find out, if its Full time 4wd, ie with a centre Lockable Diff.
or If its Part time 4wd with no centre diff.
Full time 4wd with C diff, if fine for towing, but you must NOT lock the centre diff on Hard (tarmac / road) surfaces. Only when you are on soft
ground ie grass / dirt / mud.
All Range rovers, Landy 90/110's are like this. The centre diff prevents axle wind up.
If you have part time 4wd, with NO centre Diff, then you are usually in 2WD normally on the road, and when you engage the 4wd, you connect the front
wheels into the system. Again DO NOT go 4WD on Hard surfaces, as you will wind up the Back axle against the front one and snap something (same for
above).
Like Old style Landrovers (Leaf Sprung ones)
You need to read up to see which system the Lada uses.
They are a good motor, and I have seen pwoplw tow caravans from Poland to Cornwall, so they must be OK.
Mate had one with a 2.2 Isuzu Diesel in it, that was a cracking combination, power and economy.
I tow my Caravan with my 110 landy, and only ever lock the centre diff when off road, or on the soft stuff.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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macnab
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 12:33 PM |
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I found that just a wet road was enough to give sufficient tyre slip to be able to use the locked 4wd on my landys.
Though on the dry roads the tyres would get scolding!
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SeaBass
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 12:52 PM |
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Most of these rumours stem from idiots/ignorant recovery companies trying to tow full time 4wd cars with the front two wheels off the ground.
The Torsen centre diff on the series 3 Audi cars is easily damaged in this manner because it seems to tow OK. The handbook with the car states it
should not be towed by any means for more than twenty miles I seem to remember.
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vinny1275
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 12:58 PM |
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When I moved house, I had to move the half-stripped donor Sierra with us - hired a trailer for the day (pick up one morning / drop off the next) and
cost about £35. I imagine that would be much easier to control than a freewheeling Lada...... 
Cheers
Vince
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 01:08 PM |
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i had 2 of them tools,you can flat tow ,ie all wheels on the road,if you want to do a front lift,take rear prop off.
they are permanant 4wd with centre diff
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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awinter
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 01:31 PM |
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chap in ratby
Used to hire out trailers fro about £40.
I can get his details if you are interested.
Allan
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mcerd1
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 02:37 PM |
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just as above - if you don't want to risk damaging anything - perminant 4x4 means that all 4 wheels need to be rolling (or remove the prop as
above)
I think that landrover recomend that if you need to have only 1 axle rolling, that you stay bellow 10 or 15 mph and only for a short period (just
enough to test your brakes at the MOT)
Sierra 4x4 centre diffs (viscous LSD) are easy damaged too - ford recomend a 4 wheel rolling road for MOT tests (of G metre for brake tests)
[Edited on 25/1/07 by mcerd1]
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 03:43 PM |
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Why not drive it? If it doesn't last the 150 miles back home then what chance of driving to Beijing!
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cossiebri
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 05:40 PM |
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You can't tow 4x4 sierra/escort cossie's,
need to be trailered
If it doesn't fit MODIFY it!!
Cheers BriF
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Findlay234
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| posted on 25/1/07 at 09:04 PM |
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well yes would drive except for mo mot or tax.
plan might be to trailer it to the house of my mate who owns the trailer and then spend a couple of days getting it past the mot. just a small bit of
welding (the owner claims......) it does look in very good nick from the photos.
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