NS Dev
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 12:28 AM |
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Fiat 126 twin BEC grasser progress update
Just a little progress update............................
have cut the car up and abandoned the project......................................
not!!!!!!!!
Not long got in from the garage, decided its a bit late for the angle grinder now!! 
here's a piccy or two, sorry I'm no photographer!
 
front 3rd march
 
front built up
 
6th march progress
and yes, for those not in the know and who were wondering.....the shell is lifted off again at the mo and sat in the garage to one side!
Its really dawning on me now how bloody small the little blighter is!!!!!
To give some idea, its 72" front hub centre to rear hub centre, and 67" track
[Edited on 7/3/07 by NS Dev]
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Simon
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 12:33 AM |
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With that turning circle, it'll make a great cab
Keep up the good work!
ATB
Simon
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NS Dev
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 12:46 AM |
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unfortunately with no diff (solid locked) it won't be very good at turning the right way at all!
All that lock is intended for "opposite" use
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 01:03 AM |
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OMG that looks sooo over powered
like the tyres though...
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Catpuss
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 05:44 AM |
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Nice, what are the two V twin lumps you are using? Did you go TL or VTR?
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imp paul
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 07:59 AM |
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mad as toast
that looks lots of fun looks like you have put a lot of hard work in to it good luck hope it all goes well Paul
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NS Dev
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 08:04 AM |
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cheers folks!
They are 2004 Aprilia RSV Mille Factory R engines. Make 143hp each as std, with new injection system and a few other mods should see 155hp each.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 08:30 AM |
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So that’s about 600bhp/ton, on grass…r u trying to get killed!?
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ecosse
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 08:48 AM |
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LOL...I love the rear view, those engines will be wild in there 
Cheers
Alex
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locoR1
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 09:52 AM |
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Saw some twin engined grassers in the live action arena at the autosport show, they looked absolutely mental lifting front wheels of the floor and
smoking the tyres
Coming along nicely good luck with it
Dave..........
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ned
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 11:01 AM |
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Have you cut up the older grasser then, I know you've flogged the engine and looks like you've nicked the front and rear suspension off it
aswell?!
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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iank
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 11:26 AM |
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Looking very purposeful.
Why not draw up your design and get it published. 'Build your own grasstrack special, and race it'
Don't think it would take much additional effort to get an SVA for it if you really wanted to (with a proper diff obviously )
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MikeR
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 12:07 PM |
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STOP GIVING HIM IDEAS!
He's got little enough time as it is.
I believe the old grasser was sold minus suspension.
Nat, when you around, i could do with popping round and making sure i fit in the new car :p
As for road legal - his last one was. Well in the sense it was legal cause the police couldn't catch him
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ned
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 12:08 PM |
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probably wouldn't even need an sva, just says it's an agricultural vehicle for working in the fields or summat, it is
"grasstrack" afterall
beware, I've got yellow skin
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andyps
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 12:22 PM |
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Can you just clarify, are the engines coupled together or is each one driving one wheel?
Andy
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NS Dev
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 12:50 PM |
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the drive outputs of each engine will be coupled. Its a standard arrangement on twin engine grassers since they first emerged many years ago.
there will be a step-off shaft on each engine output, to take the chain run clear of the flywheel/alternator housing, then a 630 chain will take the
drive to a sprocket on a heavy duty shaft that would normally be a diff, but is just a solid shaft in this case. The other engine does the same and
the shaft combines the drives, and dispenses it through a 108mm lobro at each end.
You just have to make sure the gearshifts between the two boxes!!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 12:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ned
probably wouldn't even need an sva, just says it's an agricultural vehicle for working in the fields or summat, it is
"grasstrack" afterall
ooh its pretty agricultural!!! lol!!!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 12:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
STOP GIVING HIM IDEAS!
He's got little enough time as it is.
I believe the old grasser was sold minus suspension.
Nat, when you around, i could do with popping round and making sure i fit in the new car :p
As for road legal - his last one was. Well in the sense it was legal cause the police couldn't catch him
sorry Mike, but pajor prob on that one!!!
I barely fit, its much shorter than the old car, if you can believe that is possible!!!
I have my knees well bent to fit, but there is no tube to get in the way of knees in this one.
bear in mind this car is shorter between wheels than you are tall!!!!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 12:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ned
Have you cut up the older grasser then, I know you've flogged the engine and looks like you've nicked the front and rear suspension off it
aswell?!
Ned.
yea sold the box, chassis and driveshafts for £450 and the engine for £1400, which will help with the £1500 bill for the pair of DTA ecu's!
[Edited on 7/3/07 by NS Dev]
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NS Dev
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 01:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
So that’s about 600bhp/ton, on grass…r u trying to get killed!?
Just ordered my sprockets, geared for 95mph @ 11,000rpm in 2nd gear (which will be race gear).......................................
bearing in mind the straights are 120yd of mud with a 180degree bend each end..............
I can't wait!!
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 01:09 PM |
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lost for words
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NS Dev
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 01:13 PM |
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there's no rush like it, MikeR will tell you how much I usually 5h1t myself just before a race (not literally of course!!! )
I just can't wait to hear it at full chat on the rolling road with both engines!!!
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iank
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 01:29 PM |
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Don't s'pose you could measure the distance shown in this highly accurate cad drawing if you get a moment.
 
Description
I have a hope that I might be able to squeeze a similar layout in the back of the buggy (possibly post SVA so no hurry ) but space is at a
premium.
<blackadder> I have a cunning plan </blackadder>
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 7/3/07 at 01:39 PM |
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looking brutal mate
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MikeR
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| posted on 8/3/07 at 12:19 AM |
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He can't sh*t himself, the 10 trips to the bogs before the race take care of all the sh*t. Its the nervous p*ss i worry about.
95mph is getting me a tad scared, the last one topped out at around what, 80mph (???) and was on the limiter....... 95 is ..... errm .... well quick
Stratford national finals is going to be wild this year - just LISTEN TO ADVICE ON CAR SETUP.
quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
there's no rush like it, MikeR will tell you how much I usually 5h1t myself just before a race (not literally of course!!! )
I just can't wait to hear it at full chat on the rolling road with both engines!!!
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