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| posted on 19/2/08 at 10:29 AM |
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Idiots and front fog lights
Driving about with the sidelights on as well as front fog lights started about 10-12 years ago and used to be the preserve of BMW 3-series owners who
thought it looked 'cool'. Then every idiot got in on the act. Can you please help me by transmitting this message to everyone you know:
"Drivers of the UK who do the sidelight/front foglight thing, you do not look in any way cool, in actual fact
YOU LOOK LIKE A TOTAL DICK!!!
no to mention the fact that you blind other drivers. Stop doing it, it's not big and it's not clever!"
I had a twerp following me to work this morning with the above lighting configuration, problem was it was actually very foggy and he should have been
fully lit up. Worst of it was, he was driving a Daewoo Espero, which can in no way be considered 'cool'
[Edited on 19/2/08 by Browser]
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mookaloid
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 10:36 AM |
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Oooooh somebody got out of bed on the wrong side this morning
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 10:37 AM |
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r1_pete
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 10:39 AM |
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Daewoo eh, probably had the headlights on but they weren't working.
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coozer
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 10:40 AM |
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A bit of a grey area but my understanding is it is an offence (fixed penalty, 3 points) to use a fog light in an appropriate manner OR drive in
fog/dark without dipped beam...
Give him a bit of verbal and wait for the cops to lock you up for threating behavior... mad.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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nathanharris1987
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 10:40 AM |
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I think your only supposed to use fog lights if you can only see 100m ahead of you?
Some peoples idea of 100m eh?
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ditchlewis
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 11:03 AM |
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i also hate it when people have their rear fog lights on when there is no fog
ditch
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 11:06 AM |
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I have to be honest, whilst I never use fog lights when not needed, it is sometimes easy to leave foglights on in error.
I drive to scotland from merseyside about 3-5 times a week, and the m6 is terrible for having fog and then it clearing further up the motorway.
sometimes I have them on and forget to switch them off. I have no idicator on my dash that they are on, so it aint that hard to leave the rear one on
in error.
Agree its annoying though when stuck in traffic at night.
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dhutch
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 11:06 AM |
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Its a load of rubbish isnt it!
Ive taken to flashing people who drive with 'fog lights' on when its not foggy.
- There just plan stupid. Blind on coming drivers, and dont even provide the car with great vison eather. If you've ever tried it.
Theres also ive noticed been a rise in people with one dipped beam out and foglights on.
- Maybe its an option if your caught short without lights. But how hard is it to stop at a garage, and replace the bulb!
- Unless there just being 'cool' having fog lights on and dont even know there others light is out?
But yeah tossers....
That said, this morning it really was foggy, i went to turn my foglights on, and the realised i'd nicked the fuse out of the front fog lights to
replace the radio one i'd blown the week before. Arse.
Daniel
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brynhamlet
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 11:20 AM |
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I do a lot of mileage on a monday and friday and have been passed by cars doing the best part of 100MPH with rear fog lights on.
Who the f**k do they think in going to crash into them.
Fog lights particarly rear ones should be banished.
If you you are driving at an appropriate speed for the weather and you've taken the trouble to clean your lights, which most poeple don't
do the normal lights are good enough if the visibility is more than 200 yards, or for the younger poeple 200M, which is 40 car lenghts, or thereabouts
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britishtrident
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 11:31 AM |
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Actually ---
Driving on only Fog lights & side lights can be very useful in very thick fog/smog and very heavy falling snow --- ie the kind of stuff that slows
you to a walking pace. In those kind of conditions if you put the headlights the glare reflected back from the headlights severely reduces how far
you can see. The fog lights which are mounted low both pick out kerbs and verges and allow you to be seen.
In moderate to quite bad nighttime front fog lights aren't that useful but they are handy used with diped head lights in daylight fog.
Rear fogs are useful in moderate thick fog or heavy falling snow. They should not be used in the rainy conditions.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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DarrenW
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 11:57 AM |
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Years ago it was easy to set up your lights so the front fogs were on every time you fired the car up. Now, at least on new cars ive had, its a pita
so most people dont bother. Its not as frequent as it once was.
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muzchap
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 12:23 PM |
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I agree with Darren, all the modern cars I have had - are a PITA to mod so the fogs are on continuously.
Whilst I agree with some of the comments - we have to be fair here - not everybody is as confident a driver as some of the people on here - I
regularly encounter people with a poor driving style, who might also be critical of mine for being fast and aggressive (read not afraid to
overtake).
If people feel safer with fog lights on and it gives them more confidence then I'm all for it.
I think we (everybody in the world) needs a bigger dose of tolernance... I know I'm always moaning usually - but decided to become more tolerant
- life is much easier this way
M
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If you believe you're not crazy, whilst everybody is telling you, you are - then they are definitely wrong!
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 12:25 PM |
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It’s done because it makes the car look lower than it actually is, even the movie batmobile had them on for this purpose. I personally think it’s a
waste of time doing that but I do use front fogs in the fog as it does help cut through it. I don’t agree that they blind oncoming drivers as the beam
is low and flat (their correct function requires this) unless deliberately misaligned they are less bright to look at than the normal dipped beam.
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bartonp
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 12:40 PM |
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Didn't you know - driving with fogs on when not needed means UR gay cruising....
(worked for blue washer lights)
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 12:42 PM |
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quote:
sometimes I have them on and forget to switch them off. I have no idicator on my dash that they are on, so it aint that hard to leave the rear one on
in error.
WTF surely that can't be right. It's an SVA must and AFAICR an MOT must/fail. It has been a requirement on all car/vehicles with rear fogs
for years and years.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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iank
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 01:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega 24 v6
quote:
sometimes I have them on and forget to switch them off. I have no idicator on my dash that they are on, so it aint that hard to leave the rear one on
in error.
WTF surely that can't be right. It's an SVA must and AFAICR an MOT must/fail. It has been a requirement on all car/vehicles with rear fogs
for years and years.
On my MK2 Mondeo the fog indicator lamp is below the already low mounted switch. Adding insult to injury it's obscured by the switch when
it's pulled out to switch them on.
To see it you have to deliberately look for it as it's even out of peripheral vision - at which point you'd not be safely looking at the
road.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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britishtrident
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 01:16 PM |
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Driving with them on is like putting a signs on you car "Danger Driven by an Idiot" or "Traffic Patrols Please Pull me
Over".
Fog lights contribute nothing to road illumination in normal driving --- anyone who thinks otherwise should try driving with foglights but no
headlights on a country road.
Although they are mounted low the beams are parallel to the ground this means they cause excessive dazzle on any road that is not billiard table
smooth.
Front Fog lights are designed only for shining a beam under a bank of fog to illuminate kerbs nothing else.
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K999NNY
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 06:50 PM |
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Fog lamps are only to be used when visibility is less than 100 metres. The fine is £30 and no points, the offence being misusing optional lamps.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 07:05 PM |
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I call them 'Idiot Lights'
As far as I'm concerned, it lets me know that those thusly lit are best avoided.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 08:10 PM |
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Having fog lights on is at least better than some of the morons I've seen in the last few days . Thick fog and NO lights. If I use rear fog
lights I turn them off if I can see headlights behind me. Very rarely use front fog lights
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/2/08 at 08:20 PM |
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When I worked in the City of London I often saw the 'Ring of Steel' policemen pulling over cars with fog-lights on and giving the driver
an earful.
Only when there wasn't a van or lorry to harass, of course! 
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