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carpmart

posted on 10/4/08 at 03:15 PM Reply With Quote
Tyre softener

Hi Chaps

Has anyone tried 'Grip Tyre Softener'?

Does it work?

If yes to above, how much difference does it make?

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TOO BADD

posted on 10/4/08 at 03:29 PM Reply With Quote
I think so ! When I was racing a 125 Rotax could'nt figure out how a lot of people could take the corner so quick, 1 sec on a kart track is the difference between winning and midfield. You can get same new life into old rubber for sure.
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Mr Whippy

posted on 10/4/08 at 03:32 PM Reply With Quote
that sounds so dodgy I'm glad I can't see it






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carpmart

posted on 10/4/08 at 03:38 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TOO BADD
I think so ! When I was racing a 125 Rotax could'nt figure out how a lot of people could take the corner so quick, 1 sec on a kart track is the difference between winning and midfield. You can get same new life into old rubber for sure.


So its pretty good gear then? Whats the characteristics of it then, do you notice a difference from cold or do the tyres still need to get up-to-temperature before this has any impact?





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mookaloid

posted on 10/4/08 at 03:38 PM Reply With Quote
Not allowed in motorsport although I don't now how you would police it





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carpmart

posted on 10/4/08 at 03:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
that sounds so dodgy I'm glad I can't see it


Its a tin of liquid! Nothing to get excited about





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carpmart

posted on 10/4/08 at 03:40 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by mookaloid
Not allowed in motorsport although I don't now how you would police it


Not allowed by who? Different rules and regs everywhere or have the FIA banned it?





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TOO BADD

posted on 10/4/08 at 03:44 PM Reply With Quote
Undetectable..... unless your name is Ron Dennis.
I would not bother with a road car unless you are looking for a tenth here or there.

[Edited on 10/4/08 by TOO BADD]

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mookaloid

posted on 10/4/08 at 04:05 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by carpmart
quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
Not allowed in motorsport although I don't now how you would police it


Not allowed by who? Different rules and regs everywhere or have the FIA banned it?


MSA I belive





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skydivepaul

posted on 10/4/08 at 04:13 PM Reply With Quote
I've used it plenty of times for my hillclimb car..........didnt know it was not allowed

very good it brings new life into old rubber. use it outdoors though when you apply it because it has a very strong smell. i got mine from demon theives about 12 quid a litre.

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delboy

posted on 10/4/08 at 04:18 PM Reply With Quote
Firstly, yes it does work. Secondly, some regulations in motorsport competion do ban it's use. It is detectable using a durometer. However, if your particular rules ban its use try using hotlap of hot lap lmt, the durometer doesnt detect it and it really works well, unfortunatly it only lasts for a short time so ideal for short oval racing etc. where softner is banned. also grip is much cheaper than hotlap.
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Wadders

posted on 10/4/08 at 05:06 PM Reply With Quote
Try some celly thinners or xylene, before you shell out £12 a litre

Al.






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carpmart

posted on 10/4/08 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
Try some celly thinners or xylene, before you shell out £12 a litre

Al.


Al - is it the same gear then?

Cellulose thinners is about £10 per litre anyway (From memory!)





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Wadders

posted on 10/4/08 at 05:24 PM Reply With Quote
I don't know if its the same, but have heard of drag racers using it. Cheap celly thinners, especially filtered stuff is only about £1 a litre. Can't see it doing your tyres much good mind

Al.



Originally posted by carpmart
quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
Try some celly thinners or xylene, before you shell out £12 a litre

Al.


Al - is it the same gear then?

Cellulose thinners is about £10 per litre anyway (From memory!)







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zilspeed

posted on 10/4/08 at 05:37 PM Reply With Quote
Wipe the tyre over with thinners, then put it into a closed black bin bag.

Roast for 24 hours.

It passes the "how far can I dig my thumbnail into this tyre" test, that's for sure.
I was given some old Yokos a few years back and this plus some fast(ish) lappery fairly woke them back up.






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delboy

posted on 10/4/08 at 05:40 PM Reply With Quote
xylene is of more use in your fuel as an octane booster, celly thinners contains the same thing and would also do the job. Don't know how much use it would be for tyre softening. I've also heard that Gunk can be used as a tyre softner, but I didn't want to chance it on a control tyre which cost £85 and lasts at best 8 meetings of 12 miles per meeting.
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TGR-ECOSSE

posted on 10/4/08 at 06:31 PM Reply With Quote
If you do use tyre softener DONT TAKE YOUR CAR OUT IN THE WET!!!! If you do get somebody to video it
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lsdweb

posted on 10/4/08 at 09:20 PM Reply With Quote
It works. You need to apply loads of coats - I use a small roller and tray and just apply a coat at a time. Well, I would if it was allowed.... :-)






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