JoelP
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| posted on 16/6/08 at 09:00 PM |
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this is the future
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7456141.stm
one day we might make hydrogen at home from the mains, or from panels on our roofs, or whatever. Once it takes off a bit, both for hydrogen
availability and also sustainability (ie not oil derived hydrogen), the concept can be developed more.
Discuss?
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loggyboy
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| posted on 16/6/08 at 09:17 PM |
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Hydrogen and means of transport dont mix that well.
Only joking...
Anything that shuts the green crowd up sounds good to me.
[Edited on 16/6/08 by loggyboy]
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smart51
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| posted on 16/6/08 at 09:35 PM |
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200 over 3 years doesn't sound like "production" to me. They're just dipping a toe in the water to test the temperature. The
most impressive thing to me is that they've been working on it for 19 years and they're now doing fleet trials. British companies and
investors wouldn't think of doing anything like that, much to our shame. We'd turn our nose up at 19 months.
The Hindenburg didn't go up in flames because it had hydrogen in it, it went up because the outer skin was coated in solid rocket booster fuel.
It was on fire for several minutes before the hydrogen envelope went up.
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skodaman
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| posted on 16/6/08 at 10:34 PM |
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They should learn how to make a decent F1 car first.
Skodaman
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Simon
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 12:33 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by JoelP
one day we might make hydrogen at home from the mains,
Discuss?
It's going to get a bit like us all having a mini turbine on the roof to prduce a tiny amount of electricity to sell to the electric suppliers,
rather than buying from a dedicated "manufacturer" who can produce it cheaper, cleaner and in greater quantities - I believe scale of
economies is what it's called. It's why I can travel 300 miles for £20 on a train and for £80 in my car. Ooops, got my figs mixed up,
£80/train (seats over a thousand) and £20 in car (seats 7)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just imaging 30 000 000 houses all producing hydrogen
Scary, hey
ATB
Simon
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 07:14 AM |
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Im pretty sure i read somewhere that mercedes made a hydrogen powered a class a little while back and that it was for sale for £200,000
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 08:17 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by smart51
The Hindenburg didn't go up in flames because it had hydrogen in it, it went up because the outer skin was coated in solid rocket booster fuel.
It was on fire for several minutes before the hydrogen envelope went up.
Just to be picky.. ... no-one knows why the hindenburg burned... there are loads of theories and most have some credulity however the 3 most popular
are the skin as you say, hydrogen ignition due to poor electrostatic earthing and sabotage..
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 17/6/08 at 10:03 AM |
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they were also doing a hard turn into the wind and may have snapped at bracing wire that ripped a gas bag. Some witnesses said they had seen a
bubbling motion in the upper outer fabric that suggests to some experts that gas was leaking out before the fire started, plus the back of the ship
was sinking prompting the ballast water being dumped early on in the film, it may actually have crashed anyway without a fire. It was a bad mix of the
wrong gas (originally Helium had been intended to be used but America would not sell the Nazi’s any), bad weather, rushed schedule and poor choice of
doping material. An accident waiting to happen…
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