tegwin
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| posted on 21/6/08 at 10:37 AM |
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soldering ring fittings
Has anyone used the copper pipe components that come with a ring of solder inside?
I want to use some of them for my cooling system, but not sure exactly how to get the solder to melt and seal the hole...
Anyone have any tips etc on getting a good joint with these things, or would I be better buying some flux and solder and doing it the old fashioned
way?
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BenB
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| posted on 21/6/08 at 10:47 AM |
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Solder ring fittings (also called Yorkshire joints) are dead easy to use.
Get some wire wool and abrade the last 1cm (ie the bit which goes inside the solder ring) of the pipe until its nice and shiny.
Coat it in some flux (not too much though- it'll run everywhere and discolour the pipe)
Slip the pipe in place, heat it with a blowtorch. First thing you'll see will be the flux bubbling. Keep playing the torch on the joint and you
should see a tiny little bit of solder appearing through capillaryaction between the connector and the pipe. Then take away the blowtorch...
The main thing to remember is that a connector typically has two solder rings inside and you'll need to do both at the same time....
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BenB
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| posted on 21/6/08 at 10:49 AM |
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The old fashioned end-feed (ie seperate solder) joints are more difficult but work out cheaper if you've got quite a few too do (but a role of
lead-free solder isn't pennies)...
so if you can do end-feed you can certainly do solder-ring...
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miikae
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| posted on 21/6/08 at 11:05 AM |
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I've always prefered to use straight copper or brass fittings tinned first using Fryolux , which is a solder loaded liquid that you just paint
on with a brush , just flash a blow torch over and the pipe/fittings are tinned ready to socket together , then just use a little solder to finish off
if needed , Fryolux is not cheap though but a Pro's choice , once used you will never be without it .
Mike
If it can be done it i will be done .
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mr henderson
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| posted on 21/6/08 at 11:19 AM |
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Would there be a plumber on a locost forum? Surely they are all building Ultimas with all new parts?
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mookaloid
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| posted on 21/6/08 at 11:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mr henderson
Would there be a plumber on a locost forum? Surely they are all building Ultimas with all new parts?
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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graememk
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| posted on 21/6/08 at 01:05 PM |
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there all at newark show as i hear its a bit wet atm
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adam1985
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| posted on 21/6/08 at 05:24 PM |
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Would there be a plumber on a locost forum? Surely they are all building Ultimas with all new parts?
what do you mean by this?
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JoelP
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| posted on 21/6/08 at 05:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adam1985
Would there be a plumber on a locost forum? Surely they are all building Ultimas with all new parts?
what do you mean by this?
undoubtedly refering to gas fitters who allegedly earn so much!
My gas man uses yorkshires, i always laugh at him cos they cost more and offer no benefit to a pro. Most people i know who use them use solder anyway,
the purpose of the ring being just to help ensure good solder penetration.
Number one rule with soldering is clean it well.
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paulf
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| posted on 21/6/08 at 06:37 PM |
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If I use solder ring fittings I normally add a bit of solder at the ends and find that electrical solder is good to use for this purpose if you only
have a few to do.
The lead free solder is not as good as it seems to set quicker and doesnt flow as well.
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