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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 30/7/08 at 09:53 PM Reply With Quote
USA to UK electricity

Well I'm being sent home from the states soon and I'm wondering what electrical kit is worth bringing and what I should leave behind. I presume I can use some kind of transformers/converter but won't the frequency difference affect some things and not others?

If possible I want to bring it all back because everything was so bloody cheap over here and I already own all the kit.

Also there is the NTSC/PAL thing as well, anyone know anything about that?

I have

Big CHEAP awesome quality LCD tv

American PS3

Giant American Fridge with all the ice making and stuff

Awesome dryer and washer set (which I think will run off 240, but will the freq make a difference??)

Then theres all my tools, mostly corded DeWalt stuff.

Pilar Drill
Lathe
Lincoln Mig, which I think will run off 240 too, but will the freq make a difference??)
Standalone Aircon Unit

Could I take a single phase and run a 115 circuit round my garage or does it not work like that???

Any help greatly appreciated





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Ben_Copeland

posted on 30/7/08 at 10:08 PM Reply With Quote
You can buy 240v to 110v transforms cheap enough now. 3Kva or 5Kva.

PS3 is no problem... just change the plug to UK. Transformer is universal. I have US PS3 in UK.

I think as long as its all 240v then it should be ok! I've not tried LCDs fom US tho





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Macbeast

posted on 30/7/08 at 10:12 PM Reply With Quote
Generally, the frequency shouldn't make much difference, if any. For your tools you could get one of the 110V safety isolating transformers as used on building sites.

Difficult to say about the TV - assuming it has AV inputs you could run it off a Freeview box to get over the different transmission standards but the PAL / NTSC thing might pose a problem unless you have RGB in. I know that in UK a PAL set can often accept an NTSC signal, but I doubt if a (cheap ) set bought in the States would do that in reverse.

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blakep82

posted on 30/7/08 at 10:12 PM Reply With Quote
we've got a fair bit of US stuff, never noticed any problems with frequency





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Volvorsport

posted on 30/7/08 at 11:09 PM Reply With Quote
i 'thought' you were going to say you can import electricity from the states because of the recent price hike !





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WanchaiWarrior

posted on 31/7/08 at 12:38 AM Reply With Quote
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PS3 is no problem... just change the plug to UK. Transformer is universal. I have US PS3 in UK.


PS3 games are region free, however blue ray movies are region locked. So depends if you watch many blue rays or not.

[Edited on 31-7-2008 by WanchaiWarrior]






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Ben_Copeland

posted on 31/7/08 at 06:00 AM Reply With Quote
Some blu-rays aren't locked. plus it's still cheaper to buy blu-rays from america and have them shipped over!

There are lists of blu-rays that are region free.

Plus seeing as he's already got a ps3 financially theres no reason to buy a UK one.





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andyharding

posted on 31/7/08 at 06:49 AM Reply With Quote
High end electronics that use a switch mode power supply can usually just be plugged in and will work fine i.e. computers. Check the label on the inlet (all devices must have them by law) it will say something like Input 80-300v 50-60Hz in which case it can be run on either. For stuff you can't run on 240v you can as mentioned get a 110v transformer. The only problem will be with things that use the input frequency as an expected constant i.e. cheap clocks and AC electric motors. The Clocks will lose their accuracy and be useless. The motors in theory should just spin slower but still work ok.





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mr henderson

posted on 31/7/08 at 07:29 AM Reply With Quote
Series motors (those with brushes) will be ok at any mains frequency, some even at DC. So power tolls will mostly be OK.

Induction motors, those that don't have brushes, these are larger for a given power output than series motors but run a lot quieter. They attempt to run at the mains frequency but are unable to, the speed they achieve will depend on the load.
In the UK 50Hz these run at just under 3000 rpm for two pole and just under 1500 for four pole motors they are often found in fridges (because of the noise and because the fridge motor is enclosed) and larger versions of machines such as sawbenches etc
If the induction motor is designed to run on 60Hz as in the USA, then obviously they are going to run correspondingly slower over here and that may or may not be OK.With a fridge it won't be

John

[Edited on 31/7/08 by mr henderson]






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eznfrank

posted on 31/7/08 at 08:01 AM Reply With Quote
Aside from all that won't the actual cost of getting it here outweight the savings? I can't imagine it's particularly cheap?
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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 31/7/08 at 02:05 PM Reply With Quote
i thought some one would bring that up,

I am having a shipping container which thankfully im not paying for





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Fred W B

posted on 31/7/08 at 02:40 PM Reply With Quote
I take it you are looking at stocking up on

aluminium radiators
Wilwood brake parts
Plastic fuel cells
Aeroquip style fittings and hose
etc
etc

Look as the "summit racing" website

http://store.summitracing.com/

Cheers

Fred W B

[Edited on 31/7/08 by Fred W B]





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scootz

posted on 31/7/08 at 02:57 PM Reply With Quote
Are you taking orders Liam?
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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 31/7/08 at 05:01 PM Reply With Quote

unfortunately I have already been inundated with requests for all manner of things. so much so that I have had to tell everyone that I will not be able to take ANY orders for anything

sorry guys its just easier that way

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[Edited on 31/7/08 by liam.mccaffrey]





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