eznfrank
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| posted on 10/9/08 at 09:14 PM |
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My new little runaround won't start :(
You may recall I posted last week about a timing belt failure on my tintop Alfa 147. Well becasue it was going to be £1900 from the main stealer and
even local bods wanting over £1500 I decided to do it myself.....anyway, in the mean time I bought a little Fiat Cinquecento from the auction to run
around in. Well tonight it won't start and has been abandoned in the work carpark.
I'm after suggestions as to what to do/look for? Mainly because I'm going to have to try sort it out in a limited time frame tomorrow
lunch time......and in my suit 
Anyway, there appears to be fuel getting in as it flooded after the 2nd attempt so I took the air box apart to help the vapours out a bit, and it was
trying to start and the battery is new and was also recently charged. I did manage to bump start it and held the revs for a couple of minutes but it
just didn't want to hold at idle??
I reckon it's probably just the spark so was going to take a bit of sandpaper to run through the contacts, and maybe a few basic tools to see
what I can do, but if anyone has any ideas that would save me masses of time that would be greatly apreciated???
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novacaine
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| posted on 10/9/08 at 09:17 PM |
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put a V8 in it 
And you run and you run to catch up with the sun but its sinking, Racing around to come up behind you again, the sun is the same in a relative way but
your older, shorter of breath and one day closer to death
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Macbeast
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| posted on 10/9/08 at 09:23 PM |
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Could be the timing belt ?
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eznfrank
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| posted on 10/9/08 at 09:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by novacaine
put a V8 in it
In my lunch hour?!?!.....and in my suit?!?!
Any serious suggestions?
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MikeR
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| posted on 10/9/08 at 09:40 PM |
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call the AA, they get high percent of cars going again, if not they'll get it home so you can work on it properly.
otherwise, buy another small car 
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Simon
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| posted on 10/9/08 at 09:42 PM |
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^^ What he said. 40 Quid would be well spent.
ATB
Simon
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eznfrank
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| posted on 10/9/08 at 09:47 PM |
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Yeah I actually have cover but couldn't really be bothered hanging round for them again (2nd week running!!) tonight.
The only problem is that the car is 3 stories underground??
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Hellfire
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| posted on 10/9/08 at 10:39 PM |
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After problems experienced with one Italian car - he goes and buys another... are you totally bonkers??
Serves you right... get a proper car! 
Sorry I cant help you...
Steve
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whitestu
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| posted on 11/9/08 at 07:55 AM |
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quote:
After problems experienced with one Italian car - he goes and buys another... are you totally bonkers??
Of course he is, but the important thing is he's bonkers with style!
I'm with Clarkson on this one - you can't be a real petrolhead unless you've owned Alfa's
Stu
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eznfrank
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| posted on 11/9/08 at 08:04 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
quote:
After problems experienced with one Italian car - he goes and buys another... are you totally bonkers??
Of course he is, but the important thing is he's bonkers with style!
I'm with Clarkson on this one - you can't be a real petrolhead unless you've owned Alfa's
Stu
Yeah 2 Alfa's, a Fiat, an Italian wife and now the Indy to add to my woes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - glutton for punishment!!!
Breakdown people on the way now so will let them sort it, it'll be electrics I guarantee it!
[Edited on 11/9/08 by eznfrank]
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ashg
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| posted on 11/9/08 at 08:11 AM |
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cinqs have a habbit of the crank position sensors going intermitant meaning sometimes they start sometimes they dont. take the air box off and when
turning it over if it backfires out the injection manifold that will be your problem.
done lots of work on cinqs and italian metal in general lol.
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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eznfrank
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| posted on 11/9/08 at 08:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ashg
cinqs have a habbit of the crank position sensors going intermitant meaning sometimes they start sometimes they dont. take the air box off and when
turning it over if it backfires out the injection manifold that will be your problem.
done lots of work on cinqs and italian metal in general lol.
That seems to make sense. I took the plugs out this morning and gave them a bit of a clean with no real difference noticed and then took the top off
the airbox and it did exactly that. Is it a big problem to sort?
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grazzledazzle
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| posted on 11/9/08 at 09:10 AM |
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And don't forgot, you will need to
Fix It Again Tomorrow
Hope that's been of use.
[Edited on 11/9/08 by grazzledazzle]
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ashg
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| posted on 11/9/08 at 12:50 PM |
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you just need a new crank position sensor. quite easy to access can be purchased from the likes of partco etc.
you virtually have to destroy the old one to get it out then sand the hole with a bit of emry cloth to clean it up then put a little bit of copper
grease (if you have some) on the new one to fit it then put the little 10mm bolt back and connect the plug.
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
Haynes Roadster (Finished)
Exocet (Finished & Sold)
New Project (Started)
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eznfrank
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| posted on 11/9/08 at 12:56 PM |
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Cheers mate, I've actually ordered one now, £22.
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02GF74
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| posted on 11/9/08 at 01:13 PM |
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the crank sensor on my volvo died recently - AA man disconected battery so that the sensor was not powered so any magnetic bits would drop off.
sounds like a good theory but did not work.
maybe worth a try although don't hold your breath.
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Simon
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| posted on 11/9/08 at 07:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
Of course he is, but the important thing is he's bonkers with style!
I'm with Clarkson on this one - you can't be a real petrolhead unless you've owned Alfa's
Stu
Cool, I'm a proper petrolhead.
Bought a Sud for fifty quid for resto, bit of further investigation revealed most of bulkhead was missing so scrapped it.
Did at least 5 miles in it.
Still, at least I've owned an Alfa
ATB
Simon
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eznfrank
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| posted on 11/9/08 at 07:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
Of course he is, but the important thing is he's bonkers with style!
I'm with Clarkson on this one - you can't be a real petrolhead unless you've owned Alfa's
Stu
Cool, I'm a proper petrolhead.
Bought a Sud for fifty quid for resto, bit of further investigation revealed most of bulkhead was missing so scrapped it.
Did at least 5 miles in it.
Still, at least I've owned an Alfa
ATB
Simon
I'm not sure if it has to be Alfa"s" plural to be a true petrol head? I love pretty much all of them for looks and noise etc but
they are a bit of a pain in the sh1tbox!!!
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eznfrank
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| posted on 12/9/08 at 07:37 PM |
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Huge thanks to ashg for a spot on diagnosis, problem now solved and back on the road. Not sure the recovery company would be so pleased if they found
out a £20 part and 10 mins labour on a £350 car led to a bill for hundreds for specialist recovery to drag it out of the underground carpark!
The missus is over the moon her little cinq is back on the road though, reckon i might be on for a bit tonight 
[Edited on 12/9/08 by eznfrank]
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t.j.
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| posted on 13/9/08 at 05:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by eznfrank
Huge thanks to ashg for a spot on diagnosis, problem now solved and back on the road. Not sure the recovery company would be so pleased if they found
out a £20 part and 10 mins labour on a £350 car led to a bill for hundreds for specialist recovery to drag it out of the underground carpark!
The missus is over the moon her little cinq is back on the road though, reckon i might be on for a bit tonight
[Edited on 12/9/08 by eznfrank]
hmmmm, my missus need more to make her happy
Please feel free to correct my bad English, i'm still learning. Your Dutch is awfull! :-)
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andrew.carwithen
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| posted on 13/9/08 at 07:03 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by eznfrank
quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
quote:
After problems experienced with one Italian car - he goes and buys another... are you totally bonkers??
Of course he is, but the important thing is he's bonkers with style!
I'm with Clarkson on this one - you can't be a real petrolhead unless you've owned Alfa's
Stu
Yeah 2 Alfa's, a Fiat, an Italian wife and now the Indy to add to my woes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - glutton for punishment!!!
Breakdown people on the way now so will let them sort it, it'll be electrics I guarantee it!
[Edited on 11/9/08 by eznfrank]
I'm on my second Alfa too...
Recently sold the 156 and bought a Spider instead. I did enjoy the 156 but I absolutely love the Spider. I'm always looking for excuses to
'pop out to the shops'
'Wassat luv?...Running low on milk?...No problem, I'll get that for you straightaway...'
Problem is, a trip to the garage just up the road turns into a 20 mile round trip!!
You buy an Alfa with your heart- not your head. Don't think I could go back to a standard eurobox now...
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eznfrank
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| posted on 13/9/08 at 07:41 AM |
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They can be a bit of a pain in the ass but Alfa's are pretty cool.
ONly problem is missus wants to get rid of teh 145 and get a Lancia Delta Evo instead - which i envisage being the biggest headache ever!!!!
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