mcerd1
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| posted on 22/9/08 at 10:56 AM |
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Tin-top service - why can't it ever be easy?
I was giving the new car (i.e. 7 year old focus) its first proper service since I bought it a few months back
everything was going great, we even managed to re-attach stray the heat shields without too much hassle
then I thought I'd give the sump a bit of a clean up with a wire brush as it has a bit of surface rust - it was a little oily but I thought it
was just the sump plug needing a new washer
next thing I know its pi***ng oil all over the place  and by this time its 11am on a Sunday so I can't even order the parts
the scary bit is that this means the oil must have been held in the sump by nothing more than rust for at least the last few hundred miles - and less
than a few hundred miles ago I was driving through 18"+ deep water in the back end of nowhere (near Morpeth) in the middle the night when even
the police where having to get rescued 
I passed quite a few abondoned cars that night - now I just feel lucky to have made it back at all !
[Edited on 22/9/08 by mcerd1]
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andylancaster3000
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| posted on 22/9/08 at 11:08 AM |
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I did exactly the same thing on an old pressed tin-can sump and have since vowed to leave them well alone and assume the slight oil residue is a good
thing! 
I needed the car the next day, it was late on a Sunday evening so I ended draining all the oil out and brazing up the little holes in situ. Slopped on
a few coats of Hammer(sh)ite and its been OK for the past 2-3 years. I've had every intention of doing the job properly since but you know how
it is with this manky old road cars.
Ok, not the safest way of doing it and probably wouldn't suggest doing it to others but it did work!
[Edited on 22/9/08 by andylancaster3000]
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Agriv8
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| posted on 22/9/08 at 11:21 AM |
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Wife's 1.5 D corsa same problem it used to weap a little until the day it dumped 2 liters on the local car park.
Main stealer was £££ ( more than the car was worth ) ebay brand new one for fraction of the cost. You could literraly push your finger through the old
one .
REgards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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SeaBass
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| posted on 22/9/08 at 11:50 AM |
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Strange coincidence this. I was helping (more like observing with a beer in hand) some mates straighten out a bashed Seicento Abarth at the weekend.
Just before I'd arrived one of them had pushed the sump with his finger and it went straight through!!
JC
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mcerd1
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| posted on 22/9/08 at 12:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by SeaBass
Strange coincidence this. I was helping (more like observing with a beer in hand) some mates straighten out a bashed Seicento Abarth at the weekend.
Just before I'd arrived one of them had pushed the sump with his finger and it went straight through!!
JC
I can't quite push my finger through it, but its got a few pin holes, and I recon another 5mins with a wire brush would find even more
btw - is that your TVR in your avitar ?
and if you've finished that do you fancy sorting the body on my scimitar.....
  
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SeaBass
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| posted on 22/9/08 at 12:04 PM |
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No not my TVR - a bit to go yet to get to that stage but its the closest I've seen to what I'm aiming for apart from the body colour.
JC
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Peteff
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| posted on 22/9/08 at 02:43 PM |
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I had the same thing with my daughter's Corsa and ended up taking the sump off to weld it up. Of course it was held on with some super adhesive
and had to be chiselled off every last inch.  It doesn't leak now and the car doesn't use any oil as it was a pint down every time she
checked it before.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 22/9/08 at 04:26 PM |
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Just back from the main dealer
amazingly they had everything in stock (apart from 1 heat sheild but I can deal with that)
the sump was listed at stuid high price, but somehow I got trade discount (as a special one off) I must spend too much money in that place.....
[Edited on 22/9/08 by mcerd1]
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DarrenW
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| posted on 22/9/08 at 05:45 PM |
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i know what you mean about over enthusiastic servicing.
Did my BMW a few weeks back. Replaced some vac hoses while i was on which meant removing the inlet manifold first (fairly big job in itself). Forgot
to remove 1 bolt that hold the dipstick tube - lost lots of fresh fully synthetic oil due to pulling the tube out of the sump!!!!! Needed to buy new
odd sized main dealer o-ring too which added a couple of days to the job.
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 22/9/08 at 07:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
I was giving the new car (i.e. 7 year old focus) its first proper service since I bought it a few months back
everything was going great, we even managed to re-attach stray the heat shields without too much hassle
then I thought I'd give the sump a bit of a clean up with a wire brush as it has a bit of surface rust - it was a little oily but I thought it
was just the sump plug needing a new washer
next thing I know its pi***ng oil all over the place and by this time its 11am on a Sunday so I can't even order the parts
the scary bit is that this means the oil must have been held in the sump by nothing more than rust for at least the last few hundred miles - and less
than a few hundred miles ago I was driving through 18"+ deep water in the back end of nowhere (near Morpeth) in the middle the night when even
the police where having to get rescued
I passed quite a few abondoned cars that night - now I just feel lucky to have made it back at all !
[Edited on 22/9/08 by mcerd1]
The 106 never had these problems
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mcerd1
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| posted on 23/9/08 at 07:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
The 106 never had these problems
Damm right it didn't !
well its never had that problem anyway, and its been through deeper water too
I had quite a few problems with it for the first couple of years - and then there was the gearbox.......
but I never had to take off so many other bits to get at the bit I was trying to sort - we got the gearbox swaped in about 6 hours (and we'd
never done one before)
modern(ish) cars are too complicated
[Edited on 23/9/08 by mcerd1]
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