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Rivets???
scootz - 2/9/10 at 06:27 PM

Securing ali sheet to mild steel chassis... do I use ali rivets or stainless ones? Does it matter?

Ta muchly!


RazMan - 2/9/10 at 06:29 PM

I would always go for stainless as they are much stronger.


tomgregory2000 - 2/9/10 at 06:36 PM

but if you have lots to do and only by hand go for the alloy ones


RichardK - 2/9/10 at 06:56 PM

Cant see it mattering mate although would recommend roughing up the area thats next to the tube and running a bit of silkaflex down the length, not only adds strength but can stop vibration too between the panels.

Hope I'm not teaching you to suck eggs and all that!!

You stripped it already then

Ta

Rich


scootz - 2/9/10 at 07:02 PM

Noooooo.... it will not be stripped (honest!).

I'm just doing a few bits and bobs to get it through it's MOT!

Thanks for the replies!


tomgregory2000 - 2/9/10 at 07:13 PM

ps if you can get MONEL rivets they would be best as the do not react with anything but they do cost more


scootz - 2/9/10 at 07:24 PM

Cheers Tom!


mookaloid - 2/9/10 at 10:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by RichardK


Hope I'm not teaching you to suck eggs and all that!!



Rich


I've always wondered how to suck an egg - can someone teach me?


g.gilo - 2/9/10 at 10:26 PM

if you use an alloy rivet in alloy sheet and steel tube and the joint gets wet it will set up an eltrolosis reaction, this will eat the alloy away in time? you need a chemical barrier eg sickaflex, silicon or a proper barrier paste.


02GF74 - 3/9/10 at 08:12 AM

^^^^ there as been a lot of discussion of this - galvanic corrosion - on land rover forums, not surprisingly since most of the dbody work is alluminium alloy.

consensus was stainless steel rivets react worse with aluminium alloy (Birmabright) ... but we are talking 40 years or so.

For a kit car that sees a lot less mileage and nicer dryer conditions, I wouldn't worry and just use aluminium, unless you plan driving it in the sea regularly.


DaveFJ - 3/9/10 at 08:32 AM

There has been a lot of discussion on this... search is your friend!

To summarise though... the best result is to use 'proper' structural monobolt type ally rivets... and always use jointing compound on every rivet. also make sure you dont make the holes to big... if you have 4.8mm rivets then you use a 4.8mm drill not 5mm!!

monobolt rivets are not cheap but they are really worth the effort. they are used to hold helicopters together so that says volumes...

Personally i prefer Huck MagnaLok type rivets becasue they can be worked with a standard type rivet gun.


Angel Acevedo - 3/9/10 at 03:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Securing ali sheet to mild steel chassis... do I use ali rivets or stainless ones? Does it matter?

Ta muchly!


What do you want?
Cheapest? Use ali.
Ultimate stregth? Use Stainless.

Being a Locost forum, IŽd advise Ali.