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Turning engine by hand
phoenix70 - 5/11/08 at 09:53 PM

Hi

Just how easy should it be to turn an engine by hand (i.e. socket on the crank pulley nut). It's 2L pinto and it seems to turn without much resistance, and makes a nice hissing noise as you approach TDC, does this sound normal, or is something worn?

Cheers

Scott


Stuart_B - 5/11/08 at 09:56 PM

i take it you are talking about with the plugs out, right?

stuart


phoenix70 - 5/11/08 at 09:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Stuart_B
i take it you are talking about with the plugs out, right?

stuart


Nope, Plugs are still in


Stuart_B - 5/11/08 at 10:01 PM

have you done a compression test?

stuart


ReMan - 5/11/08 at 10:02 PM

In my experience they vary considerably.
Some as you describe , smooth and easy with the plugs in, others very tight even with the plugs out.
But in both cases run perfectly OK


MikeR - 5/11/08 at 10:09 PM

the hissing sounds normal - you've got lots of pressure pushing past the piston rings as you slowly turn the crank (or at least i'm sure mine used to do that).


AndyGT - 5/11/08 at 10:12 PM

hissing is normal as the compression is coming back out through inlet ports and maybe the carb if it is fitted. Plus there is a percentage leakage on anything mechanically sealed which could also explain the hissing.

I would think the more hissing the better as it compressing gasses even at such a low turn over speed.



[Edited on 5/11/08 by AndyGT]


02GF74 - 6/11/08 at 08:17 AM

hissing is good - it shows you have compression, this is air getting past the rings as the valves should be shut. The slower you turn it, the more time you let the air to escape - the rings aren't a perfect seal.

It is hard to quantify how hard it is to turn with a wrench since some people are stronger than others, may use differnet length lever, how fast your turn it etc.

.... but generally you shouldn't be able to turn it without any tools but as each piston comes on the compression stroke, there should be resistance.

Compare to turning over without plugs - if it feels the same, then you have poor compression = bad engine.


DarrenW - 6/11/08 at 10:19 AM

With a half metre bar on mine it turns over relatively easily by hand and hissing noise is observed. It wont fly round, you will notice compression points where you have to apply more force and easy points in the cycle.

Yours sounds normal from your description.


Michael - 6/11/08 at 08:24 PM

Hissing noise on my crossflow is from the air coming out pas plugs, as mine are not fully tight.