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concentric slave woes
flibble - 11/4/09 at 04:20 PM

Have had my saab b204 engine joined up with its vauxhall omega gearbox for a while now with its matching vaux concentric slave cylinder (£85 ) sitting quite happily in there too.
Decided to test it today and plumbed it up to a clutch pedal, tipped some fluid in the reservoir and typically it all ran the bottom of the gearbox.. bugger.
I took the box off and found this to be my crappy pipe flares (first attempts with a flarer).. redid them and they stopped leaking.. this was when I think I made a mistake, before joining the box back onto the engine I pressed the pedal a couple of times and breifly it held pressure then 'pop' it squirted out of the slidey bit pictured:


(finally) here's the question, was it just a duff cylinder or is it possible to overextend it due to there being no clutch fingers to push against and broken it? If so, are they even remotely fixable??, I can see the rubber seal that is leaking but no obvious way to replace.


rusty nuts - 11/4/09 at 05:05 PM

Is the seal in a groove around the main body of the cylinder? a bit like a brake caliper If so it may? be possible to gently ease the piston back in but it would be a good idea to test it before refitting by restricting the piston travel, bleeding the system and pressure testing


clairetoo - 11/4/09 at 05:26 PM

The piston is held on by a swaged lip - not strong enough to withstand hydraulic pressure .
Fixable - but not easy (mine got damaged by rubbing on the clutch plate) I machined a tiny steel ring , and carefully welded it in place .
£85 I got mine for £25 off fleabay


flibble - 11/4/09 at 06:13 PM

Cheers for the replies,
I can't really get into it to have a look at the rubber seal properly - i'm guessing its now a dead cylinder
Fleabay here I come - £25 sounds much more appealing although I'll have to adapt my spacer alittle no doubt as the vaux omega ones seem expensive whereas astra/fiesta ones seem much cheaper although remarkably similar... afterall they just have to 'push' when asked


owelly - 11/4/09 at 09:28 PM

I did a similar thing with my Mondeo slave cylinder but I just pushed it back in giving it a twist as it went. It works fine.....


NS Dev - 12/4/09 at 05:49 PM

as above, yea they do pop off if no clutch to push onto, and beware, if its an omega v6 box (and it needs to be if on a saab turbo! ) then they had dual mass flywheels which are thicker and need a spacer behind the slave cylinder.

We found this one out the hard way!!


flibble - 12/4/09 at 06:47 PM

T'is indeed off the V6, just hope it holds up, should be ok being as it's a lighter car than the omega (I hope!).
I knew I'd probably need a small spacer in there but was surprised how big it had to be - wasn't aware the omega has a dual mass - that explains it
P.S. I have roughly cut a spacer to approx size ready for a bit of milling and I never want to have to hacksaw through an inch thick bit of ally again, my wrist ached for ages lol

Edit to ask: what slave cylinders have people used that have threaded connections, i dont want to end up with one of those quick-connect things that I have to find fittments for?
Cheers, Kev

[Edited on 12/4/09 by flibble]