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pinto to micra rad
Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 09:07 AM

ok, i'm a bit stuck here, from what i can tell, there's 3 hose connections on a pinto (2 large top & bottom and a smaller one in the middle) and 3 connections on a micra rad (2 large and an 8mm overflow)

but .... how do i connect the rad to the pinto, what hoses go where?

cheers


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 09:59 AM

out of waterpump on pinto goes to bottom hose on radiator

thermostat housing goes to top hose on radiator

the other hose on the pinto (smaller than top and bottom hose) goes to the expansion tank outlet (this is used to fill the coolant system)

and the other hose on the rad, if i remember rightly will need to be plugged/stopped by suitable means


also, if i remember rightly again, there is a small hose that comes off the thermostat housing - this goes to the expansion tank again at the small inlet at the top of the tank.

[Edited on 29/2/04 by Graceland]


Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 10:14 AM

hopefully i'll get it running today


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 10:19 AM

nay probs

watch out for mini bonfires if ya not got the exhaust manifold bolted on, i got these when fitting an rs2000 16v engien to me xr4x4 and melted a load of wiring loom and the edis module - ooooops. hehehe


Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 10:22 AM

ooops, hehehe, i'll remember to use a bit of alu as a little heat sheild i think

shouldn't be running for too long,just to check everything works etc


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 10:24 AM

lol - the mini bonfires were there after about 5 seconds of running at fast idle (1200 revs) - gotta admit tho, the engine had been sat under a plastic sheet in the wind and rain for over 8 months and fired up first time - was most happy


Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 10:26 AM

should be interesting


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 10:27 AM

defo fun and feels so good when an engine fires over first time after fitting and making a new engine loom - to say i was chuffed is an understatement


Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 10:29 AM

blimey!

i had enough trouble working out what was going where with a premier loom and the remains of a seirra, but then i'm doing ok seeing as this is the first thing i've ever done on a car


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 10:32 AM

lol - its not that difficult really - just take time and keep checking the schematics and make sure all the right wires are in place using a meter and testlamp


Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 10:36 AM

pah!

now i've got it twigged, it seems simple enough, problem is that i was only armed with the premier wiring instructions - great product, lousy instructions and no diagrams, idiot friendly or otherwise


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 10:44 AM

lol - i've heard some good things about the premier wiring loom kits and they seem to be the easy way round doing the wires on the locost

personally, been a tight yorkshrieman n all that, i'll be making my own loom in all its simplicity - the efi loom for the engine is only 25 wires from the ecu and 8 from the edis module - nice and simple, should keep me busy for a couple of hours

the rest of the loom should be easy enough aswell, trailer wire to the rear for the lighting and keep the efi loom totally seperate so i can change the engine later if i wish

the only place i'll get em to combine is in teh fusebox, which i'll be using a Mk4 escort one with the clear top - loads of room for fuses and relays and nice and compact and neat too and free from the breakers yard


Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 10:49 AM

the kits are great, very easy to get stuff working *but* they could do far better on the instructions, even a basic diagram (see my doodles on the elctrickery forum) would make life so much easier, and even the little things, like putt would help no end IMO

next one i'll DIY though


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 10:51 AM

hehe DIY is the way to go to keep costs down - just expect to invest in LOADS of insulation tape. ummmmmm

also, where the loom goes thru the tranny tunnel for the rear lights, would mr sva man be happy to see it travel inside a length of secure conduit / pvc pipe? saves on clipping every 4" and looks a lot neater aswell!


JoelP - 29/2/04 at 11:16 AM

two of the smaller hoses are for the heater matrix. just thought id mention that incase you'd forgotten, cos it would be pretty distressing to have plumbed it with leaks in!


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 11:29 AM

lol - with joel on this one, i forgot to mention,

2 hoses for heater matrix - 1 comes off the waterpump housing and 1 comes off the thermostat housing (or very local to the housing)


JoelP - 29/2/04 at 11:35 AM

you had me worried fella! i was wondering if i had missed out one!

i did it much as you say, plugged the one at the top of the radiator, top to top and bottom to bottom, but my top hose has a branch as standard which is the highest point in the system, so i used this as the overflow. Then i struggled for MANY hours to get a T into the bottom hose to link it to the ex tank. In fact, im still struggling now!


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 11:40 AM

lol - get hold of a bottom hose from a 2wd cossie - this has the T built in and is very cheep to buy from ford, or if you are fitting silicone hoses, then samco do a coolant hose kit for the cossie for about 80 quid - gets you all your coolant hoses for a locost there, but not at locost price unfortunately


Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 11:48 AM

i'm not bothering with a heater etc.


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 01:10 PM

what about sva for demisting/defrosting purposes?


Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 02:28 PM

no windscreen either


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 05:39 PM

isnt a windscreen an sva requirement?


JoelP - 29/2/04 at 07:51 PM

no sir, it aint! not sure if you even need a wind deflector! if no windscreen, you can avoid the wipers, washer jets and heater. lots of effort, just get a helmet! (which is a good idea anyway!)


Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 08:41 PM

as i understand it, you don't need anything and if it's not there, they can't test it.

so for a start, no rollbar, no windscreen/deflector = easy sva pass


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 11:35 PM

thats just saved me one shitload of work lads

much happy chappy - that will save at minimum 12 hours of buggering about


Staple balls - 29/2/04 at 11:38 PM

they suggested it at mk, add windows etc after sva to get around all the height tests etc


Graceland - 29/2/04 at 11:51 PM

sounds like a cunning plan - knowing my luck tho, they will have clamped down on that come sva time. lol


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 01:17 AM

yeah, it's the option i'm taking anyhoo, same with steering wheel, only a few hours to restor e to SVA condition for MOTs etc


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 12:13 PM

true true

never thought of it that way before, is definately worth looking at


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 12:16 PM

hehehe.. 29 posts in and i still have no idea about the plumbing


Graceland - 1/3/04 at 12:18 PM

ooooooooooooooooops - not my fault........honest lol


Staple balls - 1/3/04 at 12:30 PM

pah. lies!