sometimes i hate this forum!!!! when you accidentally leave any little thing out it deletes the whole friggin post!! gaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

anyway story short, got opportunity to buy a mondeo st24 s reg is it the v6 duratec in that?
is it worht £300
what gearbox can be used
can it fit in a seven chassis
what other things need to be considered
would anyone else consider using it or am i just being crazy

think thats everything i included in my original

Thanks Al

Yes it will be a V6 duratec in that. I am not sure if you will be able to use anything else from the donor car tho. Unless you are building a mid engined car?

I know it will fit in a form of seven chassis, I am sure someone else will be able to help further.

Oh several people have used this engine. Using a T5 gearbox and custom bellhousing I think.

[Edited on 20/5/09 by trogdor]

I would consider using one if it was a) good and b) cheap, but there is a cost in terms of extra plumbing (especially exhaust systems) plus you need 6 of what most sevens only need 4 of (eg spark plugs, throttle bodies etc) and I'm not sure the extra performance is worth it

John

Hi

I had the very same idea as yourself of using the Duratec V6. I have been unable to find anyone that makes a bellhousing to fit. You can get them for the 2.0 engine but not the V6.
A Jag S-Type gearbox fits straight on, but very expensive.
If you find a solution please let me know.

Cheers
Colin

The S type box (Getrag Type-221) does fit, though IIRC it's not a totaly simple bolt on job due some differences between the Jag engine and the Duratec.

This suggests the Power Torque engineering can supply a suitable bell housing.

Morgan make a bell housing too.

No offence to anyone who has one fitted but for the size and weight of them they arnt the greatest engines.

The ST24 had 170bhp from a 2.5 V6. You can easily get that from a Zetec or duratec for less hassle and cost.

I used to have a ST24 and was midly tuned and it went ok but I still think my Skoda VRS (diesel) is quicker.

Of course you do get that lovely sound and with a decent exhaust system it will sound gorgeous!

I think if i was going to the hassle of building something with a difficult engine again i wouldn't choose the st200 engine again.... if you are making the effort i think i would get a bmw straight six in there.

[Edited on 20/5/09 by grazzledazzle]

I've gone back to my original plan, a 24V BOB engine with a T9 box. Can't afford £700+ for a secondhand box of unknown origin + another £200 for a bellhousing.

Now if I can just make it all work.........

Cheers
Colin

Late reaction, sorry.

I am currently working on a duratec v6 in a MK indy. I chose for the getrag 221 option which bolts on to the lump, it has only a few misalignment which you need to overcome.
I also used slightly shortened S-type sump and an adjusted oil pick-up.

The propshaft tunnel is JUST enough. You might consider make a little bigger by moving the footwell plates to the inside of the car. Like in the westfields.

The engine gives 170bhp and an almost eaqual amount of torque, together with a 3.38 or a 3.11 diff. a st200 LIM / UIM and TB and an adjusted ECU you will close to +/-190 bhp.

The secondaries (valves) are not needed (LIM).

reg,
marc.

[Edited on 11/6/09 by major]