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Removing X-Flow Sump
psylsph - 4/5/04 at 11:29 AM

I've manged to spring a leek in my 1300 X-Flow, is it possible to remove the sump WITHOUT taking apart the engine and gear box. I can't be doing with the hastle of an engine removal with the nice summer weather.


David Jenkins - 4/5/04 at 11:54 AM

In a word - no!

From painful experience (I had to remove my sump 3 times while on the car ) there are 2 bolts hidden by the bellhousing that are impossible to remove without separating the engine and gearbox.

You could do what I did - put the front wheels on ramps, hoist the engine up a bit, unbolt the bellhousing, pull the engine forward as far as possible (supporting the gearbox on a jack). This will give you JUST enough room to do the job. But be warned - if you fumble the 2 bolts when trying to put them back, you'll have a very difficult job recovering them!

This is risky - if your engine hoist fails you're underneath, there's a great risk of getting something in your eyes, and if you're not careful you can strain the clutch bits.

Oh, and it's really hard on your back as well!

David

DISCLAIMER: I did this, but if you try it you do it at your own risk - it's your life and you must take your own full responsibility for it.


britishtrident - 4/5/04 at 12:24 PM

Depends on the pattern of sump and the type of sandwhich plate usually on kent engines with an Escort box the sandwhich plate is in 2 peices the you can get at the end 2 bolts at the flywheel end --- I think I used to use a tool made out an old allen key and a 3/8" drive socket. Worst comes to worst just slacken the bellhousing bolts and seperate the engine box by an inch or so.

Then the sump needs a couple of thumps with a rubber mallet.


David Jenkins - 4/5/04 at 12:46 PM

My sandwich plate was one-piece - which added considerably to my difficulty.

That plate is getting cut in two next time the engine comes out!

David


rusty nuts - 4/5/04 at 05:23 PM

Is it not possible to drain the oil and repair the sump without taking it off?? even if it is only a temporary repair . ps where are you if you are having nice summer weather ? certainly not cambridge , although it does seem to be clearing. Rusty


psylsph - 5/5/04 at 11:13 AM

Already tried repairing several times. Getting that tell tale oil dribble. I guess it's another patch and then full seperation over the winter.


britishtrident - 5/5/04 at 12:18 PM

Have you tried brazing or silver soldering rather than welding the joint ?


psylsph - 6/5/04 at 11:40 AM

Tried brazing etc, no joy definate needs a good clean some welding and a new hole.


jollygreengiant - 8/5/04 at 10:09 PM

Go for a new sump, their quite cheep & the only major issue is getting to the bolts at the back.



Enjoy.


psylsph - 9/5/04 at 07:39 AM

Tried before and couldn't find one. Any ideas, no scrappies in Surrey that I can find anyway.

Stuart


jollygreengiant - 9/5/04 at 08:00 PM

Tried asking engine reconditioners?

Enjoy.