Bellhousing
Hi Guys,
Managed to get my engine out this morning on my own with a bit of a stress. Unfortunately managed to be clumsy and pull off some of my engine wiring
plugs. So thats a bugger but nevermind, will order new plugs tomorrow...
Anyway back to the problem. Had a bit of a play with it when the engine was half out. My cable had so much tension it was stopping the clutch arm
returning to its position. I then gave it a bit of a hard nudge and it started working and i thought a new cable would solve the problem. Came inside
to have breakfast, gone back out and dammit. Clutch arm has gone floppy and will move from side to side with no pressure whatsoever.
Going to take gearbox off the engine in a bit. But anyway know whats wrong?
Thanks
Ed
Just had a bit more of a play, and its not all floppy. The last 1cm is rock stiff.... Starting to think wrong release bearing maybe?
What bearing are you using? You need a ctt133 I don't know why it should go loose? Either it would work or not? Hope this helps and I'm not wasting your time Reading this lol. :-)
I can't actually remember, did this part of the build about a year ago. But going to take it apart today and hope that the part number is on the item?
You can usually tell is the wrong release bearing is fitted when you cannot mate the box up to the engine without using the bolts to pull it in.
All i do know is that i got that release bearing from Raceline. So im pretty sure they sent the correct one.... And i dont recall any problems getting them to mate!
Got a pic of the release bearing?
cct133 the ford capri Mk1 1300 1968 on i think.
It should sit about 10mm prouder than the original sierra one thats used on the type 9 but as you said raceline should know whats what.
I've been searching as i'm sure i posted up a pic of the two release bairings side by side.
[Edited on 5/4/10 by bob]
Im still using the original Siera release bearing, what is the advantage of the cct133?
Paul
quote:
Originally posted by bob
cct133 the ford capri Mk1 1300 1968 on i think.
It should sit about 10mm prouder than the original sierra one thats used on the type 9 but as you said raceline should know whats what.
I've been searching as i'm sure i posted up a pic of the two release bairings side by side.
[Edited on 5/4/10 by bob]
is it the last 1cm going forward thats stiff?? If so sounds like youv got either the wrong bearing or the wrong bellhousing.
I had problems with mine when i first fitted it. I had a p100 bellhousing which is 2 inches or so longer which puts thepivot for the clutch arm too
far away from the clutch. Im tinking 7 inches and 9 inches from gearbox to mounting face.
Ok my bell housing is what i had before! Will post some pics, Just about to take it apart!
Here is my bellhousing! Sorry its a bad picture, how can you distinguish the difference?
Bellhousing
Just hoping someone can see the problem. Some more pics:
Bellhousing 2
Clutch
Will gradually start taking it apart more tomorrow. Had to slip the engine back in the car now as i have someone doing some welding to fix my exhaust
tomorrow and needs the engine in position....
Clutch springs look inverted, mine are quite flat compared to that.
What's the cover off?
Them diaphram fingers look way too close to the plate as coozer says. What clutch combo have you got?? Mines 1.8 flywheel with standard mondeo 1.8
clutch.
The bell housing looks like a normal one to me.
Just been out and studied a spare one I have.
Compared to your pic the fingers on mine are up against the retainer on the outside and about 25mm away from the splines in the plate.
Yours looks as it should when the pedals pressed!
When you say a spare one? One your planning on in emergency or to sell? 
Interesting anyway. Looks like we've found the problem anyway.. I will take it apart tomorrow...
This may be of use
My belhouse trouble.
Thanks Dan, I will have a measure up
Is this what i need?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Mondeo-1-6-1-8-Clutch-Kit-NEW_W0QQitemZ230451373792QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item35a7f8e6e0
Yes, if your engine is within them years and the cover is 220mm???
Eddie
i have a spare clutch plate and cover when i picked up a spare starter (can never have enough spares)
its the correct one for the conversion let me check part numbers.
quote:
Originally posted by dlatch
Eddie
i have a spare clutch plate and cover when i picked up a spare starter (can never have enough spares)
its the correct one for the conversion let me check part numbers.
here is a pic
its the 220mm one which i believe is correct.
what worries me on your old clutch is how have the fingers on the cover been forced in and why? something not right 
U2U sent!
eddie wasa posted the part number in another thread just found it 
ferodo CTK 1014
also it seems the early zetec clutch's which are the correct ones when using either a zetec 1.8 flywheel or the cvh flywheel, so it seems the
holes on a cvh fly match the ones on a zetec.
good luck mate
Thanks, Will give it a go tomorrow morning at a local motor factors!
Got a mk1 mondeo 220mm Clutch today from a local motorfactors for £70. Bit expensive but i don't care because it seems to have worked.
Not put engine back in the car yet, just finishing of a few jobs while theres more space in the engine bay for the mo but hope to get it back in the
car over the next few days...
Thanks everyone for all your help!
Ed
Eddie
Just be mindfull if your using a 1.8 mondeo clutch
your power is no more than 160 bhp
as thats about the limit for these clutches
Thanks for the headsup but standard the engine should be about 130hp max so will have a way to go. Plan on tuning it a bit in the future but to get it on the road first!
quote:
Originally posted by westy7
Eddie
Just be mindfull if your using a 1.8 mondeo clutch
your power is no more than 160 bhp
as thats about the limit for these clutches
WOOOHOOOO.
Engines back in and clutch works. Unfortunately going out for rest of day tomorrow but list of things todo tomorrow before the first drive:
Fill Diff and gearbox with Oil
Tighten up proshaft
Tighten up Engine Mounts
Tighten up rear suspension
Fill the cooling system.
Put the engine wiring back in!
Then the day i've been dreaming of for so long might happen?
WooHOO
yay!!!
nice result eddie, remember first drive vid posted or it never happened and we won't believe you 
[Edited on 10/4/10 by dlatch]
coozer
quote:
I'll let you know how many miles my 1.8 clutch lasts behind the ST engine.. 3500 miles so far.