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Craig81 - 29/9/04 at 05:22 PM

hi all,

Driving to work today a suddenly heard a very bad noise from engine.

The car is a 1400 zetec focus and it turns out that a bigend bearing has failed. Ive been phoning round trying to find another 1400 but it seems they are hard to come by!.
Does any body know if a 1600 or 2lt would drop straight in or are they mounts/gearboxs different!!!

On a slightly better note, got my sva date back today, 21st oct at Norwich

Cheers

craig


zilspeed - 29/9/04 at 05:44 PM

1.4 is a zetec se IIRC

See this from the buron website.

Zetec 'E' 16v

Ford has given the 'Zetec' name to three different types of 16v engines:

Zetec E - The original Zetec engine was fitted to Escort, Orion, Mondeo, Cougar and 1.8/2.0 Focus models. It has been produced in 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 litre capacities. All engines produced up to April 98 use hydraulic followers, those built from May 98 were redesigned using mechanical followers. These later engines are fitted in the Focus, Cougar and late Mondeo models.

Zetec S - This is the baby Zetec as fitted to the late Fiesta, Puma and 1.4/1.6 Focus models. It has been produced in 1.25, 1.4, 1.6 and 1.7 litre capacities. These engines bare no mechanical resemblance to the Zetec E engines.

Zetec Duratec HE - This is a brand new engine that has just been released and is to be fitted to the 2001 Mondeo model. We expect to see this engine in other models during this year. It is totally redesigned from the Zetec E engine it will inevitably replace. The most noticeable difference is the fact that this new engine is chain driven, not belt driven like the earlier engines.


Bad luck


theconrodkid - 29/9/04 at 05:55 PM

have you tried fords,ive had a suprise when looking for engines and found them to be reasonably priced


Craig81 - 29/9/04 at 05:58 PM

thanks for reply,

so do you recon i could replace it with a 1.6 se.


ChrisW - 29/9/04 at 05:58 PM

Zetec-S is *very* hard to come by. You're probably better fitting a 2.0 Zetec E - just find a suitably crashed Focus and swap all the bits over?

Chris


cosworth - 29/9/04 at 07:30 PM

1.6 zetec SE will fit and is easier to find than the 1.4. You might find that parts from ford are cheaper than a new engine-an exchange 1.6 short motor is £390 plus VAT. The 2 litre Zetec E will be a nightmare to fit as the exhaust and inlet are on the opposite sides to the S motor


Donners90 - 29/9/04 at 08:14 PM

Craig,

You may want to try Environ. They are in Chelmsford. They sell second hand Ford engines.

http://www.environcarsales.co.uk/used_parts.htm

HTH
James


stephen_gusterson - 29/9/04 at 08:58 PM

surely, if you change the engine, there will be other 'knock on' stuff to change as well, like ecu..... is the exhaust the same, etc, etc

atb

steve


Kissy - 30/9/04 at 07:14 AM

I'd want to know why it failed first.

Why can't you have the crank reground and fit new shells?


tractorboy - 30/9/04 at 07:31 AM

cant you phone ivor searles at soham and price up either new or recon parts? by the way good luck at norwich.


David Jenkins - 30/9/04 at 07:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Kissy
I'd want to know why it failed first.

Why can't you have the crank reground and fit new shells?


Thought occurred to me as well - if you are prepared to take the engine out and swap it, why not take it out, strip it down and cart it off to a decent engine builder?

It would probably cost you around £200 or so for a re-grind and new shells. The more you can strip it down the cheaper it will get.

rgds,

David


givemethebighammer - 30/9/04 at 08:58 AM

these people are late model breakers:

Intapart Ltd
London Rd, Daventry, Northamptonshire NN11 4ND

Tel: 01327 310511

Classification: Car & Commercial Vehicle Dismantlers

worth a call ?


CliveM - 30/9/04 at 04:02 PM

Hi Guys,
just read this post, and have some info on the "Sigma" engine seeing as i work for Fords engine remanufacturer!!!

The Mains Bearing shells are graded to give the required running clearance, and some levels of block require "increase crush height shells" depending upon the main bearing bore diameter. This is due to the main bearing bore suffering from ovality.

The root cause may be down to the oil pump/ladderframe... it was an OE issue, i can check with our warranty engineer tomorrow, see if theres anything else renown with this engine.

HTH

Clive


Mark Allanson - 30/9/04 at 05:43 PM

There is a company called Scratch & Dent, I know is a really corny name, but they buy all the salvage from Avis rent a car. I have personally written off 4 1.4 Focus CL's this year, so they should have a few kicking around.


Peteff - 30/9/04 at 06:02 PM

You really must be more careful Mark .