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Type 9 Circlip Removal
J90rdn - 19/1/16 at 01:06 PM

Hi. Currently overhauling a Type 9 gearbox. There is a large circlip (the countershaft gear cluster retaining circlip) which needs to be removed. The largest circlip pliers I have are 7", and look no-where near up to the job. Anyone removed this bad-boy, and if so with what type of circlip pliers?

Thanks

nick205 - 19/1/16 at 02:19 PM

I don't have one to hand, but I believe there are books on the Type 9 g/box - maybe they give directions for what tools you may need?

One other avenue would be to ask a transmission specialist who has worked on or rebuilt the g/box. Again, they may know the way around it.


ETA...ebay has quite a few different size circlip pliers for not a lot of money - worth a look as it might be what you need!

[Edited on 19/1/16 by nick205]

loggyboy - 19/1/16 at 02:47 PM

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4i6b4ll85wqsfu2/'N'_Transmission.pdf

not my link, but you don't need to be sign up/in.

nick205 - 19/1/16 at 04:33 PM

I can't recall and will check tonight, but the Haynes manual may have some info as well.

J90rdn - 19/1/16 at 04:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
I can't recall and will check tonight, but the Haynes manual may have some info as well.


Thanks - It's the Haynes manual I'm following and it just has a pic of a pair of circlip pliers. can't see mention of any specific size of tools.

Pete Jordan - 19/1/16 at 06:41 PM

I stripped down and rebuilt my type 9 last year (pics in my photo archive if you are interested). I had to buy a cheapish set of larger circlip pliers to remove the larger circlips. I'll have a look and see how big they are and let you know.

Pete

obfripper - 19/1/16 at 06:56 PM

These worked fine for me the last time i did a type 9, you may also need some of these for the bearing retaining snap rings, they can be a bit tricky trying to slide them over like a piston ring.
There are cheaper alternatives, but the knipex tips don't bend or round out the circlip ears like cheap ones can.
You may need a slim puller to remove 5th gear from the layshaft, it is usually tight and there is very little room behind the gear to fit normal 3 legged pullers behind.

Dave

nick205 - 20/1/16 at 09:54 AM

quote:
Originally posted by J90rdn
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
I can't recall and will check tonight, but the Haynes manual may have some info as well.


Thanks - It's the Haynes manual I'm following and it just has a pic of a pair of circlip pliers. can't see mention of any specific size of tools.


Agreed, checking my Haynes manual it says circlip pliers, but doesn't mentin the need for a specific size or Ford tool.

One further question...given the cost of a Type 9 g/box is it worth rebuilding? Could be cheaper to buy one and chuck it in.

J90rdn - 20/1/16 at 10:03 AM

Agreed, but never rebuilt a gearbox before, and although complicated I assume this is about as simple as they come. Always think it's easier to diagnose and fix something if you've ripped it apart. This way I'll end up with a partly reconditioned t9 that I will have a certain amount of confidence in (assuming I can get this darn circlip removed) ;-)

Paul Turner - 20/1/16 at 10:19 AM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
One further question...given the cost of a Type 9 g/box is it worth rebuilding? Could be cheaper to buy one and chuck it in.


The last Type 9 was fitted to a new car back in the early 90's, the newest you could possibly find is 25 years old. At that age its more than likely to be just as knackered as your existing one unless it was taken from a nearly new write off and dry stored.

The 2 type 9's I have bought in the past for recon have both been well past their best despite looking OK. One had broken baulk rings and the other had a mainshaft that was worn well below minimum. Fitting either as bought would have been a waste of time.

J90rdn - 25/1/16 at 12:29 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Pete Jordan
I stripped down and rebuilt my type 9 last year (pics in my photo archive if you are interested). I had to buy a cheapish set of larger circlip pliers to remove the larger circlips. I'll have a look and see how big they are and let you know.

Pete


Cheers - those photos will help no end.

J90rdn - 25/1/16 at 12:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by obfripper
These worked fine for me the last time i did a type 9, you may also need some of these for the bearing retaining snap rings, they can be a bit tricky trying to slide them over like a piston ring.
There are cheaper alternatives, but the knipex tips don't bend or round out the circlip ears like cheap ones can.
You may need a slim puller to remove 5th gear from the layshaft, it is usually tight and there is very little room behind the gear to fit normal 3 legged pullers behind.

Dave


Thanks - the knipex 4411J3 tool worked a treat.

Also picked up a small bearing puller from screwfix which worked a treat.

Gearbox now nearly fully stripped.