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rash12 - 13/5/16 at 03:29 PM

what info can anyone tell me besides its a 2.0 pinto produced in april 1985 fom the engine number FP02957

thanks in advance

02GF74 - 13/5/16 at 05:22 PM

AFAIK two letters are minth year, whuch you have.

The rest is just a nymbet, no other information to be gleaned.

jacko - 13/5/16 at 06:29 PM

If you look behind the dizzy you will find four numbers 1111 or 2222 /3333 /4444 that type of thing this number is how ford picked the engine blocks for cosworth engine 0000 or 1111's are the best machined blocks
jacko

mcerd1 - 13/5/16 at 07:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jacko
If you look behind the dizzy you will find four numbers 1111 or 2222 /3333 /4444 that type of thing this number is how ford picked the engine blocks for cosworth engine 0000 or 1111's are the best machined blocks
jacko

^^^ that's just the size of the bore when new - its basically irrelevant if you ever rebuild the engine


the important thing is which type of block you have as this affects the type of rods you'll have (later ones are very slightly stronger) and how much you'll be able to over bore it should you want to turn it in to a 2.1L or bigger
The later head is also a little better - but if you port it that's pretty well irrelevant too, but some later ones do have hardened valve seats for unleaded as standard which save a few £.

You can work out all that from the features and a few ID marks elsewhere on the block, all that engine number tells you is the age....
The engine code of the donors VIN plate actually tells you more (3 letters), but I guess you don't have that ?

[Edited on 13/5/2016 by mcerd1]

rash12 - 13/5/16 at 07:28 PM

hi sorry dont have the vin im afraid its not a 205 block thats as much as i know

mcerd1 - 13/5/16 at 07:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rash12
hi sorry dont have the vin im afraid its not a 205 block thats as much as i know


does it have a big number cast into the side somewhere ? (not stamped)


but the question is what do you want to know and why ?
at the end of the day it makes very little difference if the engine is tuned right and your not trying to make a 2.1L

[Edited on 13/5/2016 by mcerd1]

snapper - 13/5/16 at 10:13 PM

Pinto engines 101
Caveat, I've had beer so all info should be cross referenced

Early blocks had 2.0 in small vast numbers on the side of the block.
Later blocks larger 2.0 (or 1.6/1.8 depending on engine size)
The legendary 205 block is stronger with thicker bore walls and that's about it ( excepting the odd extra core plug and block blanking plug).
Contrary to popular belief there are non injection 205's, mostly low compression Transit versions.
The 205 you want is the injection variant as that has both the injection rods (the one with an F cast in to the rod flank) and the better injection head which has some basic advantages over the carb head such as the inlet port short side turn (which you can emulate if you port a carb head), hardened valve seats (which can have fitted to a carb head) and a better inlet port angle (which you can't do)

I would rather buy forged pistons than overbore to 2.1

chillis - 14/5/16 at 05:44 PM

THB there's nothing more to learn from the engine number than what you already know 'april 1985'

Unless your building an outright race engine or re-building a cossie then there's nothing block wise thats really any different between a Sierra 20 and 205 block. The crank and rods in the 205 are better but with the right prep the earlier 20 spec has been proven to be up to the job for 200+bhp.
205 heads have better exhaust ports and the injection head has better design inlet ports. Head bolts changed from multi spline to torx, pistons changed as did inlet manifold/injection/carbs.
The main change with the XX5 revision was with the 165 and 185 engine introduction. (165 and 185 were new 1.6L and 1.8L engines based on the 2.0L but with smaller bores - all the Pinto's were then centred on a common crank/rod combination.)
Cossie engines were just selected blocks from the 205 production line.

HTH

rash12 - 14/5/16 at 07:30 PM

thanks everyone for all the help much appreciated