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2.0i duratec engine
smart51 - 17/1/05 at 10:02 PM

Does the duratec engine bolt directly to a RWD gearbox like a zetec?

zetec - 17/1/05 at 10:07 PM

No. You will need a adaptor plate or bellhousing.

CairB - 17/1/05 at 10:30 PM

It will bolt to a type 9 with a bellhousing from Shawspeed, BPJ, Raceline, Titan etc. It has also been fitted to an MT75 with an adaptor plate.

Are you thinking of using one?

Be wary when buying a Duratec though there I have heard of many tales where are 1.8's being passed of as 2.0's (allegedly).

Cheers,

Colin

stevebubs - 17/1/05 at 10:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by zetec
No. You will need a adaptor plate or bellhousing.


? So Ford have broken a 30 year old tradition and changed the block bellhousing bolt pattern? The only question I have to ask is "Why?"

JoelP - 17/1/05 at 11:11 PM

dont zetecs need adapters as well?

locost_bryan - 17/1/05 at 11:58 PM

IIRC it is based on the Mazda MZR (Mazda3/6) used in the Mazda B2300/Ford Ranger light trucks (USA), mated to a Mazda gearbox. Not sure if it's the M-series box (MX5, na RX7) or R-series (RX7TT, RX8) - former has integral bellhousing, latter has separate bellhousing & bigger & stronger.

How does the engine compare size-wise to a Pinto?

stevebubs - 18/1/05 at 01:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
dont zetecs need adapters as well?


Nope.

I've mounted my blacktop zetec straight onto my Type 9

Even managed to use a 1.8 CVH dust plate, although I had to take the grinder to it in order to reshape for the oil pump diameter.

stevebubs - 18/1/05 at 01:05 AM

quote:
Originally posted by locost_bryan
IIRC it is based on the Mazda MZR (Mazda3/6) used in the Mazda B2300/Ford Ranger light trucks (USA), mated to a Mazda gearbox. Not sure if it's the M-series box (MX5, na RX7) or R-series (RX7TT, RX8) - former has integral bellhousing, latter has separate bellhousing & bigger & stronger.

How does the engine compare size-wise to a Pinto?


Mazda's been pretty much owned by Ford for the last 15 years or so. So I still have to question WHY they've made the change...after all, the Zetec-S was a Yamaha design.

stevebubs - 18/1/05 at 01:14 AM

quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
quote:
Originally posted by locost_bryan
IIRC it is based on the Mazda MZR (Mazda3/6) used in the Mazda B2300/Ford Ranger light trucks (USA), mated to a Mazda gearbox. Not sure if it's the M-series box (MX5, na RX7) or R-series (RX7TT, RX8) - former has integral bellhousing, latter has separate bellhousing & bigger & stronger.

How does the engine compare size-wise to a Pinto?


Mazda's been pretty much owned by Ford for the last 15 years or so. So I still have to question WHY they've made the change...after all, the Zetec-S was a Yamaha design.


BTW I'm not questioning the fact that it *is* different, just the logic that made Ford forsake their "standard" bolt pattern

mangogrooveworkshop - 18/1/05 at 11:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
In Aus, small Fords have been rebadged Mazdas for some time, Maybe signs of things to come?

Thats been standard practice for the Blue oval in South Africa for the last twenty years +- under the name samcor . This was to make low volume markets more profitable.
quote The result was a reduction in the cost of vehicles as manufacturers turned to low-cost imported parts in order to increase the percentage of value represented by local products. The lowered cost of assembly was evidenced in June 1991 when the South African Motor Corporation (Samcor) announced that it had started exporting locally assembled Mazdas to Britain.

mmmm zoom zoom zoom!

[Edited on 18-1-05 by mangogrooveworkshop]

CairB - 18/1/05 at 07:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by locost_bryan

How does the engine compare size-wise to a Pinto?


Have a look at: Duratec v Pinto

flak monkey - 18/1/05 at 07:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
In Aus, small Fords have been rebadged Mazdas for some time, Maybe signs of things to come?


A few year back the fiesta and mazda 121 were the same car here in the UK. Saw a few around.

DarrenW - 19/1/05 at 09:18 AM

Another thing to watch out for with Duratecs. I have heard that the Focus ST170 is badged as duratec but is actually closer technically to a zetec.

Can anyone confirm / deny this? I would hate someone to pay a high (ST170 style) premium for a zetec.