a tip from my mate who rallys subarus, is use the block from a legacy and the heads off an impreza. Apparently, the legacy engine has a better water jacket for tuned abuse.
I like the idea of the low cg, and the EJ22/EJ25 engines seem reasonably light and powerfull. Any experience out there?
Flat 4's, how wide an engine bay is that going to need.
No idea what the front drive is like, but does anybody know how easy it would be to drive wheels in front of the engine rather than wheeels that are
along side the engine?
If the 4x4 system is unusable then it take away one of the major pros fro usiong a scooby engine/transmission.
I presume you are planning a 7 style car.
[Edited on 23/2/05 by clbarclay]
my ideal use of a subaru engine would be a middy with a turbo engine, bolted to one of the original 2wd impreza gearboxes. Not sure if it could handle
it!
a tip from my mate who rallys subarus, is use the block from a legacy and the heads off an impreza. Apparently, the legacy engine has a better water
jacket for tuned abuse.
you would never get a flat 4 in the front of a seven replica!!!!!!!!
atb
steve
yes you would..... it would just have to be either a wide seven or turned 90degrees on its side
(that was another post from the useful post society!)
if memory serves, the impreza engine is about 4 feet wide - that takes 7 to a whole new un7 level!
yeah, it looks like it might be viable for a middy, but certainly not anything like the book chasis, unless..... What if you ran it like a horizontal twin BMW? Can you imagine heads sticking out of either side of the frame? Lol!
Just stick the heads out through the sides of the chassis like the beamer bikes
Dale
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Originally posted by Dale
Just stick the heads out through the sides of the chassis like the beamer bikes
Dale
I've talked to a couple of people who have measured it and say that it can be done with a McSorley +4 (my preference anyway). It' s gonna be a squeeze no matter how you slice it, and you'd probably have to mount the engine/tranny seperately, which is a PITA. Are the motor's good qualities worth the trouble? I dunno. Maybie.
steering column location might be an issue as well as the engine width..
Ned.
what exactly are the engines' "good qualities"??
I know it is fairly light and very low, but it is also fragile (bottom end failures very common) expensive to replace parts on and more difficult to
extract power from than it's other turbocharged opposition, like the Mitsubishi engine and the toyota turbo engines, both of which are much
tougher.
The breaker that I know had a containerful of knackered Subaru engines, around 15 I think, all bottom end failures after being "chipped"!! I
think they went for scrap metal in the end!
My experience with them is different. A friend has a WRX which I fabricated bits and pieces for in exchange for seat time. I didn't fancy the
turbo lag, but otherwise thought it a great car. It was one of the first WRXs out in the US, and the only thing that has gone wrong is that his first
gear syncros are toast. You have to figure that the engine in a car that is less than half the weight and only distributing power to one set of wheels
will be much less stressed than it's original placement.
But I'm no expert. That's why I'm asking.
I think your Imprezza WRX's use 2.5litre engines as opposed to the 2litre ones over here.
Mark
nah, we've got the 2.0s too. They are using the turbo 2.5s on other products though.
I'm surprised to hear the Subarus depicted as mechanically defficient. Over here, the WRX's are thought to be very tight - with the
exception of the gearbox if you're one to abuse it. The Mitsus on the other hand are somewhat suspect. One thing that Mitsubishi did to alienate
their US customers is a web search trying to link Evo owners with race results. If they found any instances of "racing" the Evo owner
promptly got a letter that his warranty was void. - Even if the racing was as innocent as gymkhana (We call it autocross)!
The big plus with this engine is the smoothness, low centre of gravity....... and the perception that its a big powerful thing that must be strong
cause its rallyed.
i like the idea of them, just not the service costs. I seem to remember talking to a mechanic friend who did a cam belt change as a favour and
"only" charged 600 quid where the dealer wanted the best part of a 1000!!!!!
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Originally posted by clbarclay
No idea what the front drive is like, but does anybody know how easy it would be to drive wheels in front of the engine rather than wheels that are along side the engine?
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Originally posted by JoelP
my ideal use of a subaru engine would be a middy with a turbo engine, bolted to one of the original 2wd impreza gearboxes. Not sure if it could handle it!
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Originally posted by MikeR
The big plus with this engine is the smoothness, low centre of gravity....... and the perception that its a big powerful thing that must be strong cause its rallyed.
i like the idea of them, just not the service costs. I seem to remember talking to a mechanic friend who did a cam belt change as a favour and "only" charged 600 quid where the dealer wanted the best part of a 1000!!!!!
yup, i thought they were strong but my mechanic friend laughed his arse off as he put me straight - it is just a myth from the rally front.
then again, i bought one with a bottom end knock and never bothered fixing it. nor did the bloke i sold it to. AFAIK. it lasted several years with
just a quiet knock.