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90 degree elbow 32mm hose (Polo Rad)
MikeR - 28/2/05 at 07:15 PM

Ok, so i want a 90degree elbow coming out of my polo rad. I don't want to spend a fortune buying a silicone hose......

any suggestions of a production car hose that would fit - or where i can get a normal rubber hose ?

Mave - 28/2/05 at 07:34 PM

I'm using the S-shaped one from a Golf II (don't know which engine). Maybe the Polo itself also has a useable one.

BMF - 28/2/05 at 09:29 PM

I know you said you don't want silicone, but try Highbury Hose on 01283 217750, I think they charge £8/9 for a 90 degree.

MikeR - 28/2/05 at 09:35 PM

but thats the problem, £8 pounds for 1 bend seems extortionate + then i'll want all my bends as silicon and the whole thing will cost a fortune......

but thanks anyway, heard lots of good things about highbury hose on other lists.

wicket - 28/2/05 at 09:53 PM

I used these from Car Builders Solutions, nice a flexible and tight bends.

http://www.nfauto.co.uk/gates.htm

Cooling_System_1a.jpg pic in photo archive shows fitted hose.

MikeR - 28/2/05 at 09:56 PM

excellent thankyou....... any more ?

(cause that works out at £6.30 plus postage)

NS Dev - 1/3/05 at 08:13 AM

Come one Mike, splash out a bit!!

I am going to do the hoses on mine in a combination of stainless dairy tube and silicone pipe. I think I will try and do as much as poss (incl the 90 deg) in stainless and get my mate to TIG it up, and then just use short pieces of Silicone tube to join up at each end.

£9 is quite a bit for a bend, but then when you see how they are made you see why (layed up by hand over a mandrel, autoclaved etc) and you only pay that £9 once, and you know it will never burst or let you down.

MikeR - 1/3/05 at 09:08 AM

Oi, are you trying to say i'm a tight northern git? Well your right!

So any better (cheeper) suggestions?

(how much and where from for the stainless diary tube?)

mangogrooveworkshop - 1/3/05 at 09:12 AM

Copper bends are another locost option

James - 1/3/05 at 09:22 AM

I bought a few of the flexible Gates' hose from Car Builder Solutions but haven't been that impressed.

Then I happened to be in Halfords one day (for my sins) and found they have a large selection of flexible hoses at a pretty good price- so I've stuck with them now.

HTH,
James

indykid - 1/3/05 at 09:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mangogrooveworkshop
Copper bends are another locost option


28mm solder ring ends up at about 31mm on the bead.

i used a 28/15/28 T to run my header tank into the bottom hose. fits nicely, but expensive from orthodox suppliers i.e plumb centre etc. find a back street hardware shop!

hth
tom

NS Dev - 1/3/05 at 12:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
Oi, are you trying to say i'm a tight northern git? Well your right!

So any better (cheeper) suggestions?

(how much and where from for the stainless diary tube?)


Cheapest I have found for dairy fittings is here http://www.allstainlessltd.co.uk/

for example, 1.5" (38mm unfortunately!) 90 degree bend, hygienic 316 stainless, £3.44, 1" similar, £2.52.

min order £40 but with a couple of us! Also do many sizes of tubing useful for exhausts etc.

Stainless is not the expensive option it seems if you are careful!

Only trouble is their website seems to play up a lot!

[Edited on 1/3/05 by NS Dev]

NS Dev - 1/3/05 at 12:48 PM

Oh yes, meant to add, though off-topic, that their hygienic concentric reducers, suitably squashed at one end, would make perfect stainless exhaust collectors for those making their own stainless manifolds!!

MikeR - 1/3/05 at 12:55 PM

I'm already using copper pipe for part of my water system between the head, header tank and return on the crossflow.

Its just the rad to block / pump that i'm looking for at the moment. I've already got flexible hoses (from halfrauds - impulse purchase) but i wanted a really tight 90 degree bend out of my bottom rad.

NS Dev - 1/3/05 at 12:58 PM

Just to be annoying and upset lots of people, for some reason known only to me, I hate those flexible hoses, I think they just look naff..........but that's just me being daft I suppose!

MikeR - 1/3/05 at 11:32 PM

I agree they do look naff...... but they work & you can cover them with bling styley after thought braided hosey bits

Micael - 2/3/05 at 08:05 AM

I use an escort original hose that came with the Zetec engine. It has a nuce 90 bend.
Then I use lots of copper bends and flexi hoses.

Pics

clbarclay - 2/3/05 at 08:36 AM

quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
Just to be annoying and upset lots of people, for some reason known only to me, I hate those flexible hoses, I think they just look naff..........but that's just me being daft I suppose!


If you mean the hoses that are convoluted (hose wall goes in/out), then there is another reason to hate them, they have a far higher resistance to flow that a standard hose.

End result, poor looks and poor engine cooling. Usefull when all else fails but never my first choice.

[Edited on 2/3/05 by clbarclay]

MikeR - 2/3/05 at 05:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Micael
I use an escort original hose that came with the Zetec engine. It has a nuce 90 bend.
Then I use lots of copper bends and flexi hoses.

Pics

had a quick look on your site and couldn't see what you meant.....

if its the hose i'm thinking of its too shallow a bend, i want a tight 90 degree bend.

Micael - 2/3/05 at 09:07 PM

The pics dosen't show that hose very well.
This is the best pic I have that shows the 90 bend. Rescued attachment hose.JPG
Rescued attachment hose.JPG

MikeR - 2/3/05 at 10:46 PM

that looks perfect - what escort is it from?

And while we're at it, what chassis / nose cone are you using? I keep getting paranoid about the placement of the rad as its so tight in the scrap nose cone i've got.

[Edited on 2/3/05 by MikeR]

Mave - 3/3/05 at 04:45 PM

What's wrong with the VW item I mentioned earlier? You can get it for free at the scrappy! (just look poor). Mine has two 90 degree parts (S-shaped), so you actually get two!

And yes, the rad IS very tight in the nosecone; I have the same problem.

MikeR - 3/3/05 at 07:25 PM

i wanted some choice

Micael - 3/3/05 at 08:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
that looks perfect - what escort is it from?

And while we're at it, what chassis / nose cone are you using? I keep getting paranoid about the placement of the rad as its so tight in the scrap nose cone i've got.

[Edited on 2/3/05 by MikeR]


The hose comes from an Escort -95 1.8. I had to chop it as it was little long for my needs.
It is the hose that goes from the engine to the rad in an Escort. Before I chop it, it had a water temp sensor on it.

I have a MK Locost chassi (not an indy) with an GTS nosecone. The Polo 1.0 rad is a tight fit, but it fits.

irvined - 4/3/05 at 11:55 AM

With the luego nose cone, its TIGHT! But, it does fit, i did find that the hose clips actually fouled the nose so had to turn them so that the tightening bit was out of the way,

The other beef I have with the polo rad is that its just about the same width as the chassis rails, so getting the hoses into the car can be a pita.

Apart from that, its a nice rad imo.

D

tks - 4/3/05 at 01:27 PM

I used a Seat 127 rad.

fits good..but its a bit small comparing to the polo...

heigh is ok.

one outlet you move to the the fan switch..
the original outlet you can tap it with solder its made of Coper/CU/koper..

works fine..

also the outlet pipe/ the small one witht he cap.. i filled it with solder material..

i used a another fan in pulling mode, so no nasty fan is seen in my cone..
(the original seat fan is to with)

TKS