I have two Pinto engines in the garage and i was quite happily going to put one of these into my locost.
However, a lad at work has got a 1700 crossflow with adapters ready for twin webers, the exhaust downpipe, lightened flywheel etc, much more sporty
than my two, and I can get it for a song.
He says there will be a bit of hassle mating it to the Sierra gearbox.
Has anyone else done this swap, and feel they can help?
Any advice would be welcome, and as I'm no engineer, simple terms would be appreciated!
Thanks guys,
Mark (dazed & confused)
A 2-litre Pinto would be fine, but a 1600 doesn't offer enough to compensate for the extra weight and size. The 1800 has very few tuning bits
available.
The x-flow is smaller and lighter, more old-fashioned (but the Pinto ain't modern either!). It is very suitable for use in the Locost.
As for fitting the Mk 9 box, it's a doddle! You will probably need to buy some imperial nuts and bolts (the Pinto may be metric), and you will have
to remove some of the blanking plate. Then you use a x-flow clutch cover plate with an early 1600 Sierra driven plate. Job done!
rgds,
David
(who abandoned a 1600 Pinto for a X-flow)
Thanks David - that was quick - you surfing at work too?!
Some further q's if I may...
What size/spec is yours, and is it nippy?
What axle have you got? (mine is a bog std Mk2 Escort).
Also, what radiator have you got? I was going to go for a Micra (discussed a lot in other posts) with the Pinto - should be ok with the XFlow?
Should have mentioned it earlier - my engines are 1.8 and 2.0. XFLow - Smaller and lighter - a big plus.
The work you describe doesn't seem too bad, any other opinions before i snap this blokes hand off?
Cheers,
Mark
Mark
Just a few words. X-flow, X-flow, X-flow, X-flow, X-flow, X-flow, X-flow, X-flow, X-flow, X-flow, X-flow, X-flow, X-flow,
you know it makes sense.
BTW no such thing as bog std mk2 escort axle. Ratios as follows: 3.54, 3.77, 3.89, 4.11, 4.44. Shoul be an ally tag on the diff bolts with ratio on.
If not then turning and counting will tell you.
Quite a shock there punters, fancy the PTM saying x flow!!!!
Actually the 2.0 pinto is a better engine 400cc up for a start, as tuneable as the x flow with more torque as well.
SFX..... Locodude spitting blood
It is a little tall for the Locost however
As for your reply chris.....
la, la, la, I'm not listening (puts fingers in ears.....)
Cheers
Chris
Both engines have there merits. Xflow - light, robust good history of tuning & can go up to 1800 if your feeling brave. Pinto - common easily tune
plenty of cheap parts & can produce good power, 2.1litre common but I believe they could go 2.3.
As the saying goes you pay your money & you take your pick.
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Originally posted by Mark H
Thanks David - that was quick - you surfing at work too?!
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What size/spec is yours, and is it nippy?
What axle have you got? (mine is a bog std Mk2 Escort).
Also, what radiator have you got? I was going to go for a Micra (discussed a lot in other posts) with the Pinto - should be ok with the XFlow?
. Thanks as always everyone!
Spoken to him this morning - just the embarrassing bit regarding price. What would you offer him? (I wont be taking the p though)
Thanks and happy Christmas!!
i would U2U locodude regards price, he will put you in the pic...... if i had to choose it would be xflow too....
there ptm picks himself up off the floor in amazement.....my 2p would say pinto is to heavy compared to the xflow.........
but............no we won't go there 
I personally think it is better when the seller sets the price, but leaving that aside, if he wants too much money, and you fancy and engine that is
not much bigger or heavier that a xflow, consider a zetec, there's plenty around now at good prices
It's ages since I studied a xflow but I now that Westfeild xflow owners consider the zetec to be virtually a straight swap
John
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i would U2U locodude regards price, he will put you in the pic...... if i had to choose it would be xflow too....
there ptm picks himself up off the floor in amazement.....my 2p would say pinto is to heavy compared to the xflow.........
but............no we won't go there
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And yes, I've just picked myself up. You feeling ok Jon, no recommendations to go the rice burning route? Which do have their merits I may add!
Cue: Jon falling on floor a-la PTM
chrisg - 19/12/02 at 08:48 PMquote:
no recommendations to go the rice burning route? Which do have their merits I may add!
You can see him working his way round to a Jap engine can't you?
What happened to " they made my grandad build a railway"etc..............?
Turncoat!!!
Cheers
Chris
Wadders - 19/12/02 at 09:26 PMMy mate has just swapped a 10year old 1700 xflow westie for a 2 year old 2litre zetec westie.
Having driven both i would have to say the xflow was far more fun, it fair screamed. I expected the zetec to be much much better, but was dissapointed.
The xflow was 1700cc with twin 40's and a bumpy cam, Dyno print out of 138bhp.
The zetec is 2000cc twin 45's with omex 3D ignition, Dyno print out 145bhp (i think)
sure the xflow used a bit of oil but so what?. If i was going to choose a heavy agricultural low revving car engine for my locost it would be a xflow ( we'll if i could't get me hands on a toyota lump that is)
Jon Ison - 20/12/02 at 07:26 AMMr honda aint bad too............there done it
Mark H - 20/12/02 at 09:35 AM[If i was going to choose a heavy agricultural low revving car engine for my locost it would be a xflow ]
Yeah cheers Al!
THe X Flow tractor engine it is then!
Wadders - 20/12/02 at 09:23 PMOnly nobbling bloke, just remember you'll be much faster in reverse than me whichever iron lump you choose.
Roll on summer Mark
jollygreengiant - 21/12/02 at 12:21 AMNow you come to mention it, one thing that they used to do with the Xflow when it first came out was to turn it into a Deisel, they were that strong.