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MGF 1.9 engine with Honda S2000 gearbox
erwe - 5/7/05 at 02:38 PM

What do I need and is it possible to join an engine 1.9 VVC from an MGF and a gearbox from a Honda S2000 6 speed?


ettore bugatti - 5/7/05 at 02:55 PM

Not sure about this, but I do believe the rotation of Honda S2000 engine is different then the Rover K-series. So I dont think it can.


britishtrident - 5/7/05 at 02:57 PM

Unlikely Rover K16 1.8 VVC engines are not related to Honda units in anyway.


gazza285 - 5/7/05 at 03:02 PM

Usual stuff, bellhousing adapter, a new head gasket, either a suitable clutch plate to fit the Rover flywheel and Honda shaft or a new flywheel to take the Honda clutch complete, a new head gasket, maybe a thrust bearing spacer depending on how the two mate together, another head gasket. Does the Honda box use a spigot bearing? If so one will have to be fitted onto the end of the Rover crank and finally a head gasket.


Bob C - 5/7/05 at 03:06 PM

bit worried about the number of head gaskets....
Bob C


Bob C - 5/7/05 at 03:07 PM

better put 3 more on the list...


Liam - 5/7/05 at 03:19 PM

Personally, I think there's already a pretty decent engine that will fit straight onto the S2000 gearbox no problem!

Liam


gazza285 - 5/7/05 at 03:21 PM

A pretty reliable one too.


colibriman - 5/7/05 at 03:42 PM

and I have (still) got one for sale !


indykid - 5/7/05 at 04:02 PM

if i can have it for the price of a pint, i have a home for it since you (still) have it

tom

[Edited on 5/7/05 by indykid]


Ben Smith - 5/7/05 at 04:10 PM

It can be done , just don't know how!! There was a "caterham copy" unfinshed project on ebay last week with a K series and s2000 gearbox. From the pics it looked like the engine and box had all been bollted together. Didn't say what bell housing though. Auction finished yesterday, car not sold.

Ben.


gazza285 - 5/7/05 at 04:25 PM

Not quite. The engine and gearbox were next to each other, actually fastening them together in a workable manner was one of the things on the "to do" list. There's a gap between the two.



Arthur Dent - 5/7/05 at 04:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ettore bugatti
Not sure about this, but I do believe the rotation of Honda S2000 engine is different then the Rover K-series. So I dont think it can.


the S2000 rotates the usual way. Its the Honda fwd stuff that goes the other way. I believe their newer stuff is changing to the usual rotation.


zilspeed - 5/7/05 at 04:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by colibriman
and I have (still) got one for sale !


You sure about that ?

I thought Melvyn looked awfull close to biting at the weekend. And there's another Autotune Gemini - just like the one he already has - for sale on here right now


Ben Smith - 5/7/05 at 05:23 PM

Well spotted. I didn't read the to do list.
Good job I didn't buy it!

Ben.


britishtrident - 5/7/05 at 05:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Arthur Dent


the S2000 rotates the usual way. Its the Honda fwd stuff that goes the other way. I believe their newer stuff is changing to the usual rotation.


The V6 Honda (Rover 827 lump ) is also conventional.


britishtrident - 5/7/05 at 05:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gazza285
Not quite. The engine and gearbox were next to each other, actually fastening them together in a workable manner was one of the things on the "to do" list. There's a gap between the two.



Dosen't look possible without masses of alloy welding and machining


gazza285 - 5/7/05 at 06:10 PM

All depends on the length of the input shaft really, if it's too long then a simple adapter plate will do, if it's too short then it gets a little more complicated.


Liam - 5/7/05 at 06:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
The V6 Honda (Rover 827 lump ) is also conventional.


Yup, as is the NSX V6 and th erest of their V6s (legend, accord etc). It's just the 4cyl VTECs until the S2000 that go the wrong way.

Liam


colibriman - 5/7/05 at 09:09 PM

'You sure about that ?

I thought Melvyn looked awfull close to biting at the weekend. '



Ahh well....we did have a fairly lengthy chat about it..He lives not far from me and is going to come and see it to see if he thinks it will fit.
He makes his car fly with a cross flow in it...He would be awesomely quick with the S2000 in it...


Indykid.... Thanks for the offer of the pint... I'll bear it in mind!


[Edited on 5/7/05 by colibriman]