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Gear reduction starter motor
ianr - 4/2/06 at 09:49 AM

Has anybody used a Gear reduction starter motor.

I am looking at trying to improve starting my xflow as the original one does struggles to start . Would this improve significantly or is there a cheaper solution i can get that would be easy to fit ?

First found this in a burton catalogue for about £170 i think.


auzziejim - 4/2/06 at 10:04 AM

my mate bought one for his mk1 escort he has a 1700 xflow and the standard starter wouldnt turn it enough to fire. his gear reduction starter turns it easily now. i think it was from h and h ignition solutions


nitram38 - 4/2/06 at 10:05 AM

Go to www.lynxae.co.uk and speak to Jon Lee. He sells all types of reduction starter motors. They are also lighter than standard and use less current. They can therefore be used on cars with smaller batteries. I think that they are around £120-140 brand new.


02GF74 - 4/2/06 at 10:18 AM

whyt is that?
a) is it the motor not powerful enough?
b) is motor on its way out?
c) is battery on its way out?
d) is battery unable to supply oompf?

if you jump start with second battery in parrallel, that would rule out c) and or d).

If the jump battery is bigger, try fitting that; then rules out d)

If that is the case, fit bigger capacity battery - cheapest solution but has wieght/size disadvantage.

Are you battery leads nice and fat, properly terminated and making good contacts? Even cheaper to fix.

What battery do you have fitted?

electronic ignition will help starting - what have you got?


britishtrident - 4/2/06 at 11:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
whyt is that?
a) is it the motor not powerful enough?
b) is motor on its way out?
c) is battery on its way out?
d) is battery unable to supply oompf?

if you jump start with second battery in parrallel, that would rule out c) and or d).

If the jump battery is bigger, try fitting that; then rules out d)

If that is the case, fit bigger capacity battery - cheapest solution but has wieght/size disadvantage.

Are you battery leads nice and fat, properly terminated and making good contacts? Even cheaper to fix.

What battery do you have fitted?

electronic ignition will help starting - what have you got?




None of the above -- puny starters on Kent engines have been a a problem since pre-xflow days, reducing the intial ignition advance and using a thinner cold end oil helps, on the othe side high presure and high capacity oil pumps make it worse.

In the old days racers resorted to 24 volt starting but these days gear starters are the way to go.


Bob C - 4/2/06 at 03:44 PM

I got 'gear' starter motor exchanged for £80 at my local motor shop (the box has AUTOELECTRO written on). Note that it had to be exchanged because the wee epicyclic gearbox in it was wrecked - all the teeth fell out on examination - looked as though it spun up OK at the scrapyard where it was a fiver.
So I think they're much better starter motors but there's an extra set of things to go wrong in 'em so watch out with scrapyard purchases!
cheers
Bob


ianr - 6/2/06 at 10:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
whyt is that?
a) is it the motor not powerful enough?
b) is motor on its way out?
c) is battery on its way out?
d) is battery unable to supply oompf?

if you jump start with second battery in parrallel, that would rule out c) and or d).

If the jump battery is bigger, try fitting that; then rules out d)

If that is the case, fit bigger capacity battery - cheapest solution but has wieght/size disadvantage.

Are you battery leads nice and fat, properly terminated and making good contacts? Even cheaper to fix.

What battery do you have fitted?

electronic ignition will help starting - what have you got?


I think a and b.

The battery is new , same size as older but had a better cold cranking time. Just means when i have not used it for a while i can just about start it before the battery is flat.

I have replaced me points with magnetic non contact, but not to full managment.

[Edited on 6/2/06 by ianr]