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XE oil cooler??
chrsgrain - 18/2/06 at 10:14 AM

Hi all,

Quick query, do people running XE's use oil coolers? I know the original engine had one, and that makes me think perhaps I should, but then again..... if so, any suggestions about which one to go for??

Thanks for your help!

Chris


ned - 18/2/06 at 11:02 AM

I'm going to run one remotely with a take off plate.

am yet to spec it all up though. prob a 15 row iirc, i already have the remote filter head.

cheers,

Ned.


02GF74 - 18/2/06 at 11:54 AM

If you have the space and cash then I would say yes.

Noone ever killed an engine by having too much cooling capacity, especially if you have thermostatically controlled cooler.

(waits for someone to say otherwise.....)


martthefridgeman - 18/2/06 at 12:12 PM

I would definately run an oil cooler an a xe for two reasons. 1. the coolant radiator used on a locost is most likely to be smaller than the standard vx rad in an astra or cavalier and 2 any extra oil capacity gained via fitting an oil cooler will offset the possible loss of capacity when using ashortened sump. mja


the_fbi - 18/2/06 at 01:33 PM

The LET runs the same size oil cooler as the XE and will be generating lots more heat than the XE. Yet oil temp isn't a problem.

As for the radiator size affecting it. Again the LET runs a smaller (by about 7" width) radiator than the XE's do and no problems with water temp either.

So if a LET can handle the oil/water temp with a smaller radiator and same size oil cooler, the XE should comfortably.


billy - 18/2/06 at 06:53 PM

I have a remote oil filter but didnt bother with oil cooler, was told the old xe dont mind running hottish, ive thrashed mine with no problems


ned - 18/2/06 at 07:17 PM

billy, how have you done the take off on yours? is it a normal take off plate (if so what size fittings?) or is it the sbd kit?

cheers,

Ned.


billy - 19/2/06 at 05:21 PM

Hi ned, i think the kit comes from merlin motorsport??? have a look in there mag. cheers


chriscook - 19/2/06 at 07:34 PM

I've put a 13 row cooler on mine running off the original thermostatic sandwich plate. Deciding factor was a friend/colleague with an XE in a caterham needing one. He was finding oil getting a bit warm and thin and the engine sounding tappetty when pushed hard.

Chris


ned - 19/2/06 at 07:54 PM

I've heard that it helps with oil capacity aswell from a caterham chap who I bought some bits from. I plan to fit one just under the back of the top of the nosecone with a bit of grill on the top of the nosecone like zetec has recently done.

Ned.


NS Dev - 20/2/06 at 12:04 AM

Not bothering with a cooler on mine. I had an XE in an Opel Manta years ago. and ran it very hard on numerous occasions.

It would obviously be working much harder as it was having to drag 1 tonne of manta around. it was running 176hp @wheels, 204 hp flywheel.

I could not keep the oil temp up enough on that. It used a manta alloy big wing sump from an 1800 OHC car, and this seemed to keep the oil really cool, the cooler rad had a temp strip on it and it never even showed high enough for oil ever having gone through the cooler (thermostatic takeoff for it)


Stu16v - 24/2/06 at 09:45 PM

No cooler on mine.

Yes, the 'donor' had one fitted. But Vauxhall probably fitted it to cope with *extremes* of use, and to help protect the oil itself - which would help extend the service intervals.

If it is in standard guise, it isnt necessary. KISS. However, it may become a good idea if the power output/revs of the engine is raised considerably over standard spec. But IMHO, *if* an oil cooler is really deemed necessary, a dry sump should also be considered...


NS Dev - 25/2/06 at 02:14 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Stu16v
No cooler on mine.

Yes, the 'donor' had one fitted. But Vauxhall probably fitted it to cope with *extremes* of use, and to help protect the oil itself - which would help extend the service intervals.

If it is in standard guise, it isnt necessary. KISS. However, it may become a good idea if the power output/revs of the engine is raised considerably over standard spec. But IMHO, *if* an oil cooler is really deemed necessary, a dry sump should also be considered...


Yea, still considering the dry sump, but still not worried about the cooler!