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cambelt problems
les - 3/11/06 at 06:50 PM

Hi chaps,

I am starting to prepare the ening for my
tiger avon,

its a 2L zetec. Im changing the cambelt
but cant get the crankshaft pulley off,
the bolt wont move-anyone got any ideas?

help appreciated!!

Les


stevec - 3/11/06 at 06:55 PM

Welcome to the forum Les.

Apply more force is the simple answer. Securely hold the flywheel and use a long break bar with a quality socket.
Steve.

[Edited on 3/11/06 by stevec]


DIY Si - 3/11/06 at 06:56 PM

I believe that bolt is done up (V)FT. Just hit it harder.


MattCraneCustoms - 3/11/06 at 06:57 PM

i guess you've locked the flywheel off or whatever? Try getting a long piece of box section and putting it on the end of the spanner to get more leverage, that should loosen it


zetec7 - 3/11/06 at 06:58 PM

BE CAREFUL! Those bolts are brittle - my mate broke his off inside (although the remains spun out with his fingers once the head broke off, and a replacement from Ford was cheap...). Try using a box-end spanner, and rap the head of the bolt with a hammer while you try turning it out.

I shouldn't be that difficult...mine came out quite easily once I cracked it loose. Silly question - you are turning it counter-clockwise, right?


les - 3/11/06 at 07:05 PM

Hi guys thanks for the replies,

yes turning anti-clockwise,
tried using a long breaker bar, the socket actually broke up!!

I was thinking that I must be missing something. Will buy a new socket tommorow having soaked it in wd40 overnight.
as you say, am worried it might strip or break off leaving my in real trouble!!


rusty nuts - 3/11/06 at 07:09 PM

Where abouts are you? You may be near a forum member that has a decent air wrench and impact socket . Must have done loads of Zetec timing belts and have never had a problem getting one undone. Might be worth taking your engine to your local garage , they should be able to undo it in seconds .


les - 3/11/06 at 07:16 PM

Hi,

Im near brighton,

i have the engine on a trolley, so could be an option, but if anyone is nearby help would be much appreciated!!

Les


big_wasa - 3/11/06 at 07:21 PM

As Above, If you where nearer I would do it for you. DONT use the cam locking tool . make a Y spanner to hold the pullys.


les - 3/11/06 at 07:27 PM

Hi,

At the moment I have the old automatic
flywheel, wedged with a large screwdriver through the hole where i have removed the crank position sensor housing.
as you say suprising as all the other engine bolts have been relatively easy.


ch1ll1 - 3/11/06 at 07:40 PM

try hitting the crack bar whilst trying to undo the bolt ( some time the shck can help it)


smdl - 4/11/06 at 07:55 AM

I did mine a couple of weeks ago, and stretched a standard socket, as well. I then switched to an impact socket with a standard 1/2" ratchet, and that did the job nicely.

Keep working at it -- you'll get it.

Shaun


t.j. - 4/11/06 at 08:09 AM

hit it!

U must try to "break" the 32 mm bolt.
Anti clockwise,

Air-tool or 2 kg hammer must do the trick.

I won't work to "unlosing" it by turning with a big pipe or so. It goes to slow which can cause that you really break to bolt just in the tread

[Edited on 4/11/06 by t.j.]


les - 4/11/06 at 12:04 PM

thanks guys will post the result tonight!!


les - 4/11/06 at 11:15 PM

Ok guys,

bolt removed!! hit bar with hammer- that did it.

next problem is with cambelt. I followed haynes manuel to the letter, have some problems..

it was very difficult to get the camshaft alignment tool into the two camshafts, once eventually lined up, i swapped the cambelt. then rotated the crank through two turns as stated to check the belt

problem is there seems to be a slack point in the belt- tension seems fine until just before reaching the crank pulleyt marks- then a slightly slacker point appears between the two camshaft toothed pulleys.

anyone had this or have i messed up!!

Les


rusty nuts - 5/11/06 at 09:02 AM

Do you have a small spring on thje tensioner? Early Zetec engines didn't have one fitted , they should be modified when changing belt . Also how are you tightening the camshaft pulley bolts? are you using a cam holding tool ? you may find it's not long enough so that cam and pulley are turning slightly when cam bolt is torqued up ? that would alter tension on belt . DO NOT use cam timing tool to hold cam when torqueing bolt ! cam will break !HTH