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pinto high torque cam
cadebytiger - 9/8/07 at 05:14 PM

Has anyone tried the FR30 high torque cam in a pinto?

I have heard it is the one to go for. I currently have the FR32 for which the power band ends at i thin 7200 from about 2500

I never really get about 6000rpm and that is the end of the high torque cam but the power band starts at 1000 rpm. I.e. Tickover!

might have and FR32 up for sale soon.

any thoughts?


flak monkey - 9/8/07 at 05:19 PM

Stick an FR33 in it, it'll go a bit better then


jos - 9/8/07 at 05:35 PM

im interested in your fr32


thesnake505 - 9/8/07 at 05:58 PM

if u do decided to get a fr30 keep us posted, im thinking about putting one in my 1.6 pinto, but need to get mega jolt working properly first :-p

cheers snake


mookaloid - 9/8/07 at 07:47 PM

the FR30 is for caravanners... or heavy cars or vans pulling heavy loads

If this is for your Tiger I would recommend the FR32 or 33 - in a lightweight car you need power not necessarily huge amounts of torque - I hate to say this but this is why bike engines work in these cars




Cheers

Mark


martinq357 - 9/8/07 at 07:48 PM

Complete Kit Car mag did a rolling road shoot out with some Tigers a few months ago and there were a couple of Avons that had Vulcan (I think) heads and FR30's. Both were in the 135-140 BHP region and a good helping of torque too. The RR guy was quite complementary as well.
Certainly got me thinking when funds allow.
Martin.


SixedUp - 9/8/07 at 08:16 PM

I have an Emerald phase 4 in my 2.1 pinto. Nice fat torque curve, while retaining a pretty good headline power figure. Pulls like a train. Dave Walker got out of that business some time back, but you can still get the cams (and information about them) from Newman Cams.
Cheers
Richard


MkIndy7 - 9/8/07 at 08:26 PM

We putting Throttle Bodies on so we've gone for a Sports Injection cam.

Kent list it as +16BHP like the FR32 only its delivered from 1,000 - 6,250 RPM as apposed to 2,500 - 7000 RPM.

Considering a Standard pinto bottom end probably shouldn't go too near 7,000 RPM often it seems a much better profile for us.


cadebytiger - 9/8/07 at 10:02 PM

exactly! As far as i can see torque is highly underrated. It is not a racer and will do but a few track days in it's life. most of the time the thrill is going to come from the confident stab in you lumbar region when you press the loud pedal as so is all about torque!


NS Dev - 10/8/07 at 03:11 PM

We had a piper 285 cam in the old road rally sierra, which I was led to believe is similar to the kent fr32, but it pulled like a dumper truck from no revs at all, even in a much heavier car.

Do you have enough ignition advance low down on you emerald map?????


cadebytiger - 10/8/07 at 05:01 PM

not sure about the advance. i think it is at about 8degs. it was taken from someone with a very similar setup to mine.

from what i have read by dave andrews and heard from my dad's hotrod god kev rooney pintos like high lift and low duration. The cam you talk about has higher lift and lower duration than the FR32 although the powerband figures are similar.

the sports torque cam has similar lift but less duration still which i is why the power is lower down i guess. maybe the piper one would be a good choice.


NS Dev - 10/8/07 at 06:32 PM

I can certainly say that our old sierra 2.0 pinto with 38 dgas carb (or even just the 32-36 carb) and Piper 285 cam plus porting and decent exhaust gave decent power.

It had no problem keeping up with my 2.9 XR4x4 afterwards, and was quicker at some speeds. Torque was never an issue either, it was torquier all through the rev range from idle to flat out than the std ford cam. No idea what it revved to, it had double valve springs, no rev counter and no rev limiter, no idea how it stayed in one piece!

[Edited on 10/8/07 by NS Dev]


cadebytiger - 10/8/07 at 06:51 PM

haha! sounds great.

would you say the ignition advance sounds correct?

Kev the guru of the NSRA was not very complimentary about the FR32. He said it was one of those things that every seem to think they need. the people who know go for high lift which is exactly what both the piper one you had and the fr30 are.

I think it might be a sound investment.

will also have to get you to port the head sometime lol


MkIndy7 - 13/8/07 at 06:24 PM

The Sports injection cam has even higher lift and less Duration.
12.6mm lift as apposed to 11.93 for the FR32

Although it maybe only works properly on the injection engine where the fuel is "forced" in, it might not have enough duration for the carb'd engine to suck in enough air/fuel.