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TnT - 4/9/03 at 08:17 PM

Does any one know if a 1.6 RS turbo engine has been fitted to a locost?


Noodle - 4/9/03 at 09:10 PM

In answer to your question - No, I don't know.

However, I believe the RS Turbo was just a turbo'd CVH. This engine's been fitted to all manner of vehicles including the Sierra, so a RWD gearbox to a type 9 shouldn't present you with any problems.


Cheers,

Neil.


blueshift - 5/9/03 at 01:03 AM

What's the Cosworth engine? Hicost legendarily has one of those, doesn't he.

I'm a ford engine newbie.


Noodle - 5/9/03 at 08:22 AM

At it's basic, the Cosworth motor (2 litre turbo) is a 16v-headed Pinto motor with injection and is known as the YB. Subtle derivatives of this engine have a further suffix to identify them (YBG, YBJ I think). It came in various tunes and turbos (RS500 had 8 injectors, only 4 of them used in the road). The last Escort Cosworths used smaller turbo units for reduced lag.

The engine doesn't respond particulary well to being normally aspirated. Ports were designed for turbo applications. High power n.a engines used a Warrior head as I recall. (Aftermarket conversion)


Boxes used were T5 and MT75.

There's sh?t-loads more to know, but that's the basics.

Cheers,

Neil.


Browser - 5/9/03 at 09:22 AM

RE the above, the Cossie motor was seen as really hot snot when it came out and don't get me wrong, 200+bhp from a road car motor was something very special in the mid-eighties. But now we have naturally aspirated Honda lumps doing 210bhp (albeit screaming their nads off) and turbo'd Mitsubishis coming out of the factory with 280bhp.
Mind you, none of them were based on a cast iron boat anchor concieved in the late 60's were they!


Noodle - 5/9/03 at 09:28 AM

I know Honda's rev like crazy, but they're making horsepower because of RPM. I drove an S2000 recently and yes it was a hoot, but it did appear torque-free. A bit like Quorn is to meat At least the YB boat anchor has torque.

It's easier to go fast with torque than RPM!

Cheers,

Neil.

(p.s. I have no particular affinity with the YB's having owned Turbo Subaru's)


Stu16v - 5/9/03 at 05:40 PM

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It's easier to go fast with torque than RPM!



Dunno about that.....

It's easier to tow caravans with torque. But thats not too important when building a locost

If this were actually true, everybody would be fitting diesel engines instead of bike engines.......

[Edited on 5/9/03 by Stu16v]


JoelP - 5/9/03 at 06:35 PM

A car with no torque wont move, and a car with no power wont move...

Liberal amounts of both i think! Peak power defines top speed, hand in hand with the gear ratios. High power is usually accompanied by high torque innit. I prefer torque to power i think, both in diesels and big Vs at low revs, as i prefer working the gearbox and keeping revs low. Engines last longer at low revs!

Having said that, you cant go very fast without using revs...

does this count as rambling?!


skippad - 5/9/03 at 09:31 PM

I've got a copy of "boys in hoods" magazine in which somebody installed a 1.6 rs turbo engine out of an escort into a Robin Hood... with great results.


eddie - 5/9/03 at 10:26 PM

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by Browser

RE the above, the Cossie motor was seen as really hot snot when it came out and don't get me wrong, 200+bhp from a road car motor was something very special in the mid-eighties. But now we have naturally aspirated Honda lumps doing 210bhp (albeit screaming their nads off) and turbo'd Mitsubishis coming out of the factory with 280bhp.



The thing that was so special about the cossie was in its day it was the first mass produced, production car to break the 100BHP/Litre barrier, and this was years before the japs were able to get in on the game...

But when the criminal fraternity realised this, they were stolen in droves as getaway vehicles, so they could outrun the police. Took the police a couple of years to realise this, then every force in the country had to have a few in their arsenal....


mackie - 6/9/03 at 12:44 AM

The engine in the BMW M3 has an iron block unless i'm very much mistaken and that's about as high tech as road car engines get - so the pinto isn't alone
ISTR it was something to do with ali being too weak with bores that big (I think it's the same size block as the 3.0) and making a bigger block was not an option.
Supra has an iron block too I think.


Browser - 6/9/03 at 01:05 PM

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Took the police a couple of years to realise this, then every force in the country had to have a few in their arsenal....



You keep your arsenal to youself Eddie!