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Long 1st gear in a Type 9 box
David Jenkins - 8/9/07 at 03:06 PM

Anyone here modified a Type 9 box, to change to a longer 1st gear? If so, how much did it cost, and did anything need modification (apart from the layshaft and 1st gear, that is)?

I'm getting fed up with having to change out of 1st at around 25mph, which arrives after about 1 - 2 seconds after starting! The BGH 1st gear set (roughly 2.9:1) would mean that the first gear change would be at around 40 mph, which would be a lot more civilised. I'm happy with the rest of the gear ratios, so changing the diff would be pointless.

David


phoenix70 - 8/9/07 at 05:24 PM

I know what you mean, I've got the exact same issue, the 1st gear is too short, and you hardly have time react before you are on the rev limiter.

Cheers

Scott


stevec - 8/9/07 at 07:49 PM

I think the Granada type 9's have a taller first gear.
Steve


GeoffT - 8/9/07 at 08:42 PM

I've got a Granada box in my car, first gear is 3.36 IIRC. Although slightly better, this still has you grabbing for 2nd gear pretty soon, reckon something around 2.8 would be about right. Burton were selling a 2.98 gear kit (new first gear and modified laygear) £300 quid exchange though.....

Wonder if BGH could supply an affordable gearkit if offered a group buy...?


David Jenkins - 9/9/07 at 07:23 AM

I've been having a good look at prices - working on the principle that if you're going to strip a gearbox, you might as well replace the bearings while you're in there - you can easily spend more than £300 + VAT for the gears and overhaul kit!

However, BGH Geartech sell a complete long 1st gear kit for £235, and bearings can be bought as-and-when required, so the price can be brought down. Can't avoid buying new seals and gaskets though.


Angel Acevedo - 10/9/07 at 04:41 PM

Start on 2nd???


David Jenkins - 10/9/07 at 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Angel Acevedo
Start on 2nd???


I do, quite often, as long as everything is in the car's favour - flat or downhill, and me not in a hurry.

It's only when I want to accelerate fast that I wish for a longer 1st...


britishtrident - 11/9/07 at 08:14 AM

Aim for lower ratios similar to the 2000e or the more extreme Bullet.

2000e ratios make a big differerence.

Of course you could always take the cheaper route of just putting in a closer ratio 4 speed box and longer diff ratio.