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macspeedy - 22/6/02 at 03:18 PM

Has anyone heard of a v-tec conversion to beable to fit them rwd as they are such nice revy engines i've heard that if you connect them standard your car would be going very fast backwards ??


Fatboy Dave - 22/6/02 at 03:24 PM

I've heard this too, people saying that they do rotate backwards, and some saying they don't (notably, Dave Walker from CCC). Not really into Hondas, so never bothered to find out.

Apparently, older RWD Honda boxes can be used, but again, no interest in Hondas to be able to tell you otherwise. Sorry.


Liam - 22/6/02 at 04:10 PM

Hello,

I'm using a pre v-tec Honda V6 in my car, and it goes round the right way. I've heard that it's either only 4-cylinder Honda engines, or only the v-tec honda engines that rotate the wrong way. Either way, if you want to use a 4 cylinder v-tec it goes the wrong way. The exception to this rule is the new S2000 which has a 4 cylinder v-tec that goes the right way - and a RWD gearbox. How many of those in jap breakers though??

If your engine goes the wrong way, then in theory you can turn your diff up-side down and the problem's sorted.

Some people say you shouldn't do this because the diff is only designed to go one way, but I've also spoken to people who have done this and had no problems whatsoever - most notably the famous twin bike-engined 4WD tiger (as featured on 5th gear), which uses an up-side-down Sierra rear diff in the front.

Hope that helps,

Liam


theconrodkid - 22/6/02 at 04:25 PM

the 4 pot honhas do go the wrong way round,so put it where all jap motors belong,in the bin!


locodude - 22/6/02 at 06:13 PM

Well said that man!!!
chris PTM


Jon Ison - 22/6/02 at 06:56 PM

ouch.....


ChrisW - 22/6/02 at 10:48 PM

No comment on Jap motors but just to agree with Liam - turn the back diff/axle over and it'll go forwards!

Chris


Metal Hippy™ - 22/6/02 at 11:13 PM

Is the world coming to an end?

I only ask because Liam made a comment that somebody has agreed with...


stephen_gusterson - 23/6/02 at 10:51 AM

the wisdom seesm to be that as diffs have helical cut gears, only one side is able to load bear. also driving the oppose way will make a lotta noise as the gears are cut that way for a quiet mesh.

i have never come across anyone in two years of listing thats actually done this.

atb

steve


Jon Ison - 23/6/02 at 11:07 AM

here we go again, batton down the hatch's, but......the VW bettle box was for years the choice of oval racers going mid mounted RWD who could'nt afford the hewland, trouble was without turning the diff you had 4 reverse and one forward, so the diff was turned. It would be a toss up wether the ATMO Cosworth of RV8 was the most potent engine i mounted to a Vdub box, but neither broke it with continual abuse and sat on rev limiter, drop the clutch style starts.......noise wasn't an issue in these case's but yes, they did whine a bit...
Remember one thing, the weight of these cars is a fraction of what the axles are designed to pull, so even with more power you are putting much less stress on them...


bob - 23/6/02 at 09:19 PM

Am i in a parallel universe here?

I'm sure we have been here before.


Liam - 24/6/02 at 07:22 PM

You are funny guy, Heee-py. I like you - you are funny guy. Maybe I will only break your legs.

Oh, and Honda make the best engines in the world . BMWs are nearly as good (except for those crap old lumps of iron they put in the old M5, eh Hippy?).

Liam


Metal Hippy™ - 24/6/02 at 07:28 PM

I'll see you eat my dust Liam...


locodude - 24/6/02 at 08:23 PM

HEY
We were at war with the Germans and the Japs you know. Jesus H Christ, no sooner has the dust settled on our war deads graves and you bastards are inviting them round for tea!!!!

Chris PTM (crossflows & pintos R us, till I change my mind!)


Metal Hippy™ - 24/6/02 at 08:26 PM

We may have been at war with the Germans, but you gotta admire their fantastic knack for overengineering things..


locodude - 24/6/02 at 08:31 PM

Hippy
No I have'nt. For overengineer read heavy and ugly, just like most of the sausage eating fat bastards. Have you not seen a Spitfire? beauty at it's best!
Chris PTM


Metal Hippy™ - 24/6/02 at 08:36 PM

Yeah yeah.

Anyway, better than being underengineered Mr Saggy Knackers


Jasper - 24/6/02 at 08:37 PM

Spitfire...now that's one engine I'd like to see in a locost....


locodude - 24/6/02 at 08:43 PM

Hippy
If you're going to pump lots of sludge, you need a large resevoir!
Chris PTM


Metal Hippy™ - 24/6/02 at 08:48 PM

Moving swiftly on...

You'd need a rather hefty spaceframe to take a 27 litre Merlin V12 from a Spitfire...


PHULL - 8/7/02 at 03:19 PM

hey there
well the only car comerly available that has Vtec and is in rear wheel drive is the Honda S2000, and where I come from Honda parts are on par or more expencive than BMW parts.
Yes Honda engines rotate the oposite way to most cars but u know something.. the humble A series engine used buy British Leyland, and for alll those people who are sick of points (Bloody Lucas "prince of Darkness") people use late 70's honda civic dizzis a very cheap way of giving ur mini contactless ignition system.

have fun