Just stumbled across
this
book on the haynes website whilst lurking for sierras on ebay and literature on amazon.
Description from the website:
"The Ford CVH engine has been used in many well-known Ford models including Fiestas (1.4, 1.6, XR2i and RS Turbo), Escorts (1.4,
1.6, RS1600i, XR3, XR3i and RS Turbo) and Orions (1.3, 1.6 and 1600i). This detailed book gives a brief history of the unit followed by advice
on rebuilding and tuning an engine in the home garage, describing what can be undertaken by the enthusiast and what should be put out to specialists.
It includes chapters on carburettors, the exhaust and ignition systems, and illustrates all stages of engine stripdown and rebuild."
It doesn't say anything about sierra's in there? Just fiestas, escorts and orions... Would this still be of much use to those using a cvh
from a sierra? or did ford make some significant changes to the cvh after the sierra? Just wondering since this could be an ideal accompanyment to the
sierra haynes manual
[Edited on 22/7/08 by paul the 6th]
It won't be relevant for the 1.8 CVH, just the smaller ones.
Stu
I personally wouldnt bother fitting a CVH engine myself - you'd be better with dare i say it a Pinto or Zetec (but what you really want is a bike engine!! ). The CVH isnt the most tuneable and you will not find it so easy to buy off the shelf parts like manifolds etc
2 words (sort of)
RS Turbo
thanks for the replies guys
if you have a quick look at this thread you'll see my rationale behind going
for the 1.8 cvh. I'm not too bothered about mental power/tuneability and since it's my first ever attempt at anything like this (not from an
engineering background & I don't have any friends who know about this stuff) so I wanted to stick closely to what the book says. There seems
to be plenty of sapphires with the cvh & type 9 'box floating around.
If I can find a decent serra with a pinto engine I'll be tempted to maybe reconsider.
Also, once I get my head around my first project, I'm going to go mental and fit a turbo busa engine to a single seater (or something along those
lines)
[Edited on 22/7/08 by paul the 6th]
quote:
I personally wouldnt bother fitting a CVH engine myself
nice one stu
thats the ethos behind my build. I'm seriously not bothered about big power (as I've got 2005 suzuki sv650 sport which'll hit 60 in
around 3.5 seconds and is good for 145 mph).
a 1.6 or 1.8 engine in a car which weighs 700kg's shouldn't exactly be slow and it will handle better than most standard audi tt's (at
a guess?). It's more about the building/learning experience. Once i've finished my first one, I'll happily go for bigger power and more
complex designs.
It's just a case of trying to find a decent cvh. At first glance there appeared to be loads of them on ebay but most of the serra's are
dohc's or automatic chv's
quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
I personally wouldnt bother fitting a CVH engine myself - you'd be better with dare i say it a Pinto or Zetec (but what you really want is a bike engine!! ). The CVH isnt the most tuneable and you will not find it so easy to buy off the shelf parts like manifolds etc
it's my first build and I am scared! lol
top information from everyone though thank you very much
I was one of the first to build with a 1.8 cvh , they always draw negative comments because tuning parts aren't generally available as this
engine was derived from an american 1.9 version I believe.
But in standard form is much better than a standard crossflow or pinto, and if you sort an exhaust ,ditch the ridiculous small pierburg carb , and fit
either a uk cvh distributor or megajolt ignition they are surprisingly acceptable , smooth , torquey ,simple to work on.
I also skimmed the head on mine 1mm and spent some time cleaning up the port shapes.
Been to one Lotus track day with mainly elises ,and those vx sport things, I can honestly say that I was not at all embarrassed by the performance and
some on here may confirm that.
So all in all a cheap simple effective engine for 1st build.
And to concur with 'Whitestu' I have had a Zetec waiting for fitment for 2 years , but everytime I go out I think this ole 1.8CVH ain't
too bad at all.
[Edited on 22/7/08 by Surrey Dave]
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that was the impression i got with the cvh...
"tuning parts aren't that readily available" does not = Crap engine
there always seems to be someone somwhere, who has a nice bit of advice like the above. Or there's usually a company who can supply a couple of
bits even if they're a bit more expensive than the equivalent for another engine.
I'm happy enough with the cvh as it seems to be simple enough but will offer a great learning experience
Some interesting CVH comments here:
http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/index.htm
fancy 400+bhp?
Cheers,
James
quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
I was one of the first to build with a 1.8 cvh , they always draw negative comments because tuning parts aren't generally available as this engine was derived from an american 1.9 version I believe.
But in standard form is much better than a standard crossflow or pinto, and if you sort an exhaust ,ditch the ridiculous small pierburg carb , and fit either a uk cvh distributor or megajolt ignition they are surprisingly acceptable , smooth , torquey ,simple to work on.
I also skimmed the head on mine 1mm and spent some time cleaning up the port shapes.
Been to one Lotus track day with mainly elises ,and those vx sport things, I can honestly say that I was not at all embarrassed by the performance and some on here may confirm that.
So all in all a cheap simple effective engine for 1st build.
And to concur with 'Whitestu' I have had a Zetec waiting for fitment for 2 years , but everytime I go out I think this ole 1.8CVH ain't too bad at all.
[Edited on 22/7/08 by Surrey Dave]
ah now it's becoming clear....
so when "there's a distinct lack of tuning parts", there are bits and pieces out there but the pinto has much more available for it?
I think I'll be happy sticking a k&n and an exhaust (plus any other neccessary mods to the carbs/sparks) and that'll do me until I get
tired of being left behind on rides out
quote:
Originally posted by paul the 6th
that was the impression i got with the cvh...
"tuning parts aren't that readily available" does not = Crap engine
This who you need if you want to put 1.6 head on 1.8 motor:
http://www.ferriday.co.uk/
Gaskets .adapter plates , pistons.
But it is much cheaper to fit a Zetec.
quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
This who you need if you want to put 1.6 head on 1.8 motor:
http://www.ferriday.co.uk/
Gaskets .adapter plates , pistons.
But it is much cheaper to fit a Zetec.
think I'll hang fire on the tuning for a little while lol.
Thanks for all the info/advice/opinons from everyone