
just a newbie with a cossy question ?
a standard 205 blocked pinto can have it's head swapped for a twin cam normaly aspirated cossy head along with uprated everything else...am i
right or am i barking up the wrong tree ??
Yes, but.........
You need the crank pulley too for the cam belt and a lot of work on the head to get decent power, its designed to have a turbo blowing loads of air
into it not a piston sucking air in, oh and a side entry dizzy cap (pug 205 fits) else you cant get the carbs on.
The head really does need serious amounts of work to make any decent power on a "atmo cosworth"
eta "KAMBO", you nipped on here from pistonheads ? Welcome.
[Edited on 21/10/08 by Jon Ison]
pretty much right....
if you want more info look at Des Hammills book.
be aware that the cosworth crank is stronger than the standard pinto and has 9 bolts for the flywheel rather than 6.
It was my intention to do just that but after spending a small fortune on my pinto it became a little too much...




quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
Yes, but.........
You need the crank pulley too for the cam belt and a lot of work on the head to get decent power, its designed to have a turbo blowing loads of air into it not a piston sucking air in, oh and a side entry dizzy cap (pug 205 fits) else you cant get the carbs on.
The head really does need serious amounts of work to make any decent power on a "atmo cosworth"
eta "KAMBO", you nipped on here from pistonheads ? Welcome.
[Edited on 21/10/08 by Jon Ison]
Check Des Hammill's book published by Veloce. As mentioned, you can do it but realistically for what it would cost to do it properly you could fit a very tidy 2.0 Zetec install with throttle bodies and cams and achieve the same sort of power.
eta "KAMBO", you nipped on here from pistonheads
nope not me. i is new
I'm going back more years than I care to mention but when I did it it cost a small fortune, dry sump belt let go and lost engine, replaced with a red top VX on same carbs, made more power out of box for a dam site less.
Why not go for the normally aspirated engine cosworth actually had a hand in - the vauxhall XE
(obviously the coscast version)
Aftermarket ecu and throttle bodies plus arp bolts should see you near 200bhp
Edit : Above post appeared while I was typing my reply
[Edited on 21/10/08 by Mr G]
N/a Cosworth is a money pit without much gain. A friend fits 2.0 Duratecs to Mk1-MK2 Escort rally cars with ZX6 TB's, they run on standard management to produce a reliable 190bhp and he even uses the original inlet manifold (with the original injector holes plugged). probably do it with a low miler for a grand. Slap an aftermarket ECU on it and 250bhp is within easy grasp. He also has the ali bell housings for about £100 I believe. Duratecs are newer and im sure they are lighter than Cosssies and XE's.
looks like i've opened a can of worms here
heres another one for you....whats the cheapest £ per hp engine i could hypotheticaly fit in my locost ???
Only one answer, £ per performance = bike engine, end of.
Bear in mind the free 6 speed sequential box.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRISTOL-SAPPHIRE-MK-202-GAS-TURBINE-JET-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ300267879916QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300267879916&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C 66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
quote:
Originally posted by DaveFJ
pretty much right....
if you want more info look at Des Hammills book.
be aware that the cosworth crank is stronger than the standard pinto and has 9 bolts for the flywheel rather than 6.
It was my intention to do just that but after spending a small fortune on my pinto it became a little too much...![]()
(defiatly not locost - well into ££££'s)
quote:
Originally posted by KAMBO
looks like i've opened a can of worms here
heres another one for you....whats the cheapest £ per hp engine i could hypotheticaly fit in my locost ???
Cosworth = money pit
Zetec or Duratec = less pain + less outlay + cheap replacements
On the most BHP per £ question, it'd have to be something fairly old and turbocharged with the boost cranked up any day. I'm thinking
toyota 3SGTE, Nissan 200sx motor, vauxhall C20LET - that sort of thing. I'm no expert on either of them (but plenty of people here or on
specific manufacturer forums will be), but I'd say any of these, plus the similar ones I've missed, could give you around 300 bhp for around
a grand.
Can't think what could beat that sort of motor for BHP per £, but as Jon says, if it's really performance per £ you're after, then BEC
is also worth considering.
Certainly not an NA cossie, or anything remotely connected with Pinto, anyway
Liam
quote:
Originally posted by Liam
On the most BHP per £ question, it'd have to be something fairly old and turbocharged with the boost cranked up any day. I'm thinking toyota 3SGTE, Nissan 200sx motor, vauxhall C20LET - that sort of thing.