Gremlin
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| posted on 27/8/02 at 11:35 PM |
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I have my donor car at last but....!!!!
I finally have my donor a G reg sierra 2lt. It has all the bits i want but has a DOHC engine! You will have to excuse my ignorance and spelling but
that means it is a pinto doesnt it?
Not cost me anything so if i cant use it i will strip other bit and scrap it. If it is a pinto is it any good and does it have same mounts as the SOHC
pinto?
Whats the main differnces?
If it is not a pinto can i use the MT75 gearbox with a pinto if i can get hold of just the lump?
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DavidC
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 08:20 AM |
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AFAIK that's not a pinto cos it's 16v. It's more like an early Zetec actually.
Also, I think the exhaust and intake sides are swapped over (ie the exhaust is on the passenger side not the driver side).
DC
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chazpowerslide
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 08:43 AM |
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Completly different from Zetec, very heavy, chane driven cams, relativly poor power output and limited tuning potential. Best used as an
anchor..............and no, It's not a pinto.
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philgregson
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 08:51 AM |
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I used to have a G reg 16v sierra Ghia and I'm sure it had belt driven cams.
It was EFI - I don't know if they all were - but it was around 130bhp in standard form and went well (certainly not much worse than my current 16v
vectra that has the 16v ecotec that everyone raves about) - sounds to me like a lot less effort than all the tuning that smaller engines and pintos
require.
I still don't understand why every one hates them!
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Gremlin
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 01:08 PM |
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Yeah chain drive though it was naff. Its ok i will us other bits and have someone who wants to swap gearbox MT75 for a type 9 if i dont want it! So
all i need is pinto lunp.
oh well i will get most my parts from it!
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ChrisW
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 02:01 PM |
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You don't want a Pinto lump unless you can help it (sorry all those that have them). The main reason being that it's stupidly tall and very top
heavy. Try and get your hands on a 1.6 Crossflow or a 1.8 CVH like mine (but change the head to an XR2 one 'cos they're crap otherwise) Much
shorter and not so heavy to lug about!
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Simon
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 02:15 PM |
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ChrisW,
What's involved in swapping heads between 1.8 CVH (what I have) and XR2 (presumably 1.6).
Thanks V Much
ATB
Simon
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BigDave
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 02:47 PM |
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Seems like you've got the same sierra as me!!
From what I have found out it's not actually a 16v but only 8v, still with two cams (Double Over Head Cam, DOHC). It came with the Sierra GLS model
as a replacement for the 2.0l pinto. It makes more power in standard form, 125bhp, which should give a briskish performance.
You will probably have problems with the fuel injection intake as the back of it sits high within the engine bay.
As far as the cams are concerned I can't remember if it is belt or chain driven but I have heard warnings to check these out on higher milage
cars.
Only other thing I have found out, is that if the engine is allowed to run hot, then it can cause the head to warp or crack.
Finally it seems that not many people are using these engines (I made the same assumption as you when I first picked up the car) so backup is going to
be hard to find (if you find out anything then please let me know!!)
Regards
Dave
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UncleFista
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 03:47 PM |
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Chain driven, bit fiddly to change but not exceptionaly difficult. I *think* its basically a Pinto with a DOHC head, I've also heard you can swap
heads with the 16 valve version (Escort RS 2000 and also on some Granada) for an extra 20 hp or so.
They're not that popular mainly because of the lack of tuning bits off the shelf.
HTH
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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johnston
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 04:44 PM |
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nothin to do with the pinto was supposed 2b a replacement but then the zetec came out
u have the i4 (i think) it was in sierras granda's and the tranny's there was a 8v dohc and a 16v version and if my memory is correct ht racing
build 200bhp+ versions of the 16v
it has a reputation like the cvh some people reckon their underrated others think their anchors
but like i said ht racing are the boys for info
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 04:47 PM |
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only one werd needed to describe these engines(dohc 8 v)RUBBISH.imho of course 
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ChrisW
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| posted on 28/8/02 at 10:58 PM |
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quote:
What's involved in swapping heads between 1.8 CVH (what I have) and XR2 (presumably 1.6).
It's a straight swap but you'll need cam/lifters etc from the XR2 and the 1.8 Dizzy won't fit so nick that aswell while you're at it. It also
looks like it'd be a good idea to use the top pulley from the 1.8 cos all the pulleys are wider on the 1.8 (as is the belt).
I'm doing this conversion right now (well, not literally right now but you know what I mean) so I'll be able to tell you more in a few days when I
bolt it all back together again. Just waiting for some new head bolts to arrive.... 
Chris
AFTERTHOUGHT: there's two types of CVH head on the XR2 - the early type and the newer 'lean burn' type. Pretty sure you need the early type but
I'll check that next time I'm out in the garage. I think the change was somewhere around mid D plate (early 87).
My gaff my rules
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bass
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| posted on 31/8/02 at 03:35 PM |
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early DOHC engines had carbs, on high milage engines chain and tensioner must be changed as the chain may break, good goers plenty of power. do you
want to spend £120 on a cam, £200 on pistons,£200 on webers,£## on a head, ect when you can get the same power from stock engine
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 1/9/02 at 07:38 PM |
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quote:
Yeah chain drive though it was naff. Its ok i will us other bits and have someone who wants to swap gearbox MT75 for a type 9 if i dont want
it! So all i need is pinto lunp.
oh well i will get most my parts from it!
use the engine!!!!
The pinto is around 105 - 115 hp and that engine is 125hp.
whats the big problem with it? It was used in all sierra and granada after 1989 in 2.0l form. It has an 8v alu head that warps if overheated, so there
is no problem if you dont overheat it! As sierras get older this engine is going to be in the available cars, unless really old crap is bouth in say 5
years time.
Only if you want to do a lot of tuning use a pinto. Even then you will onyl get 25hp more than that motor.
think a bit before you ditch it.
atb
steve
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