raguri
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 posted on 5/10/11 at 03:45 PM |
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Stupid Engine Question...
Hi all,
Was just wondering if it would be possible to use a b16 honda engine in a locost, hooked up to a honda s2000 engine. And, if it is possible, why
haven't i seen one around?
1.6 engine with 170bhp from stock? Most people would be loving this, so is it simply that it's "to big" for a stock locost chassis?
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flibble
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 03:49 PM |
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I recall it's more because the crank runs the other way to most cars (including the s2000) so you'd be going backwards very quickly 
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raguri
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 04:05 PM |
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Ah, that may be it then!
Still learning the whole engine scene... and locost scene, so forgive me for anything stupid i ask.
But, any other ideas for a powerful 1.6 engine, limited to that capacity by insurance
[Edited on 5/10/11 by raguri]
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scudderfish
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 04:07 PM |
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Run the diff/live axle upside down?
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raguri
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 04:23 PM |
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think this will need a LOT of thought, and money...
so may just go for something smaller (boring i know, but i only want to spend a total of 2.5k on the build!)
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britishtrident
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 04:24 PM |
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Flipping the diff will make the drive line centre line too high and to some extent will shorten the diff life .
For a first build keep it simple either go single donor Ford sierra or buy a complete car and put the engine you want in, ie change a Pinto for
a 1600 Zetec.
However be aware even with a 1300 xflo a Locost style car will be a lot livelier than than any tintop you have ever driven.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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Macbeast
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 04:37 PM |
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"i only want to spend a total of 2.5k on the build!) "
Most of us thought that at the start
Good luck anyway.
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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raguri
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 04:41 PM |
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haha, i need to be strict about it, being my first car and all 
so actually, maybe a 1600 xflow or zetec would be a better option, less of a chance of me wrapping it around a wall somewhere
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CRAIGR
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 04:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by raguri
Hi all,
Was just wondering if it would be possible to use a b16 honda engine in a locost, hooked up to a honda s2000 engine. And, if it is possible, why
haven't i seen one around?
Surely you'd need a gearbox in there somewhere
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raguri
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 05:10 PM |
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....
That's what happens when you don't proof read!
I have two engines apparently, i'm just that amazing...
Meant gearbox for the s2000, but now know that wont work.
So now, it's 1.6 zetec and type 9.
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flibble
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 05:17 PM |
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Thought about building a middy? You could use the honda engine then I guess?
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raguri
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 05:24 PM |
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For about 2 seconds, but as it's my first ever build it will be stupidly hard to do.
plus, the kit i am looking at is the Aries Locost, but i'm still debating about whether to do live axle, or independent rear suspension.
Thinking that a 1.6 zetec or CrossFlow should be good enough for two years
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steve m
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 06:07 PM |
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Im still on my 1600 ish xflow 12 years later, and have no reason to stick anything else up front
Xflow's are cheap, cheap to run, easy to work on, dont need emission tests for MOT, or noise !
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raguri
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 06:11 PM |
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Hmm, do you have any idea of a rough 0-60 time?
only reason i ask, is because i don't want to be smoked by a load of chavs in their ford st's.
Call me petty, but that would kill me...
And also, 1600 crossflow for £100, good deal?
And type 9 for £50?
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snakebelly
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 08:01 PM |
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zetec se? 1.6 free revving and rwd conversion parts now available
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snakebelly
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 08:03 PM |
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www.shawspeed.com online shop zetec se sigma parts inc bellhousing for type 9 etc
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raguri
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| posted on 5/10/11 at 08:04 PM |
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was thinking of that, but would it be as reliable and easy to set up as a cross flow?
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snakebelly
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| posted on 6/10/11 at 06:58 AM |
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no reason why not, mass produced, modern and although i dont know i would bet its lighter than a crossflow. And with the price of crossflow parts
creeping up its a better bet long term as well imo
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Norfolkluegojnr
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| posted on 6/10/11 at 08:05 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by raguri
Hmm, do you have any idea of a rough 0-60 time?
only reason i ask, is because i don't want to be smoked by a load of chavs in their ford st's.
Call me petty, but that would kill me...
And also, 1600 crossflow for £100, good deal?
And type 9 for £50?
Thats cheap for a decent crossflow - ours sold for £850 with twin dellortos and an A2 cam. Type 9's are getting less common and more
expensive.
Forget chav's in ST's. you'll be having to much fun to worry about them.
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whitestu
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| posted on 6/10/11 at 09:31 AM |
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Personally I'd avoid crossflows. They were old technology when I started driving in the early 80's!
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raguri
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| posted on 6/10/11 at 04:34 PM |
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well, for £100 it will need a refurb (from escort-tec), as will the gearbox (or at least a good clean!)
However, just sent Steve at aries an email asking about mazda mx5 donors, so will wait and see about that!
And hmm, old tech?
But they're so widely used, even today, so what makes you say that... An engine's an engine is it not? 
PLUS, as someone's said on my other thread, x-flow means easier to pass IVA...
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b14wrc
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| posted on 6/10/11 at 06:47 PM |
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My first kit car and I am going for the middy option. Not really come up with any major problems yet.
20vt powered rear engined locost
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