AndyW
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| posted on 8/9/14 at 01:51 PM |
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reverse hard to select, and 1st is hard?
Hi all,
Got a slight problem. When engine up to normal temps I find it impossible to select reverse without an almighty crunch. Also after yesterdays drive,
1st gear now judders badly on pull away.
i'm using standard 2.0 blacktop flywheel and mondeo clutch with the CCT133 release bearing.
Could it be a simple case of badly adjusted clutch cable or does it sound like a more serious problem which needs everything removing to find out?
The clutch was new and only done 2000 miles in the kit.
need to find out what it is rather quick otherwise no pint in re taxing at the end of the month 
Cheers
Andy
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Paul Turner
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| posted on 8/9/14 at 02:10 PM |
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On a normal cable operated Pinto type set up there is no way to adjust the clutch other than ensure the release bearing is not constantly pressing
onto the clutch.
If that is the case and its previously been ok I would suspect you have some sort of failure, possibly the release bearing. Not sure what release
bearing you should be using with the Mondeo flywheel/clutch combination but a mate had similar issues with his car. Used the wrong bearing, too long,
put constant pressure on the clutch and it did not last long.
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whitestu
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| posted on 8/9/14 at 02:45 PM |
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Soulds like the clutch could be dragging.
On my set up (type 9 with Capri cable) you can adjust the clutch so I'd have a go at this first for the sake of half an hour to rule it out.
Stu
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Paul Turner
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| posted on 8/9/14 at 03:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
Soulds like the clutch could be dragging.
On my set up (type 9 with Capri cable) you can adjust the clutch so I'd have a go at this first for the sake of half an hour to rule it out.
Stu
You cannot adjust the clutch, you can only adjust the free play in the cable which determines the height of the pedal.
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whitestu
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| posted on 8/9/14 at 03:07 PM |
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quote:
You cannot adjust the clutch, you can only adjust the free play in the cable which determines the height of the pedal.
But if the pedal is going to the floor before the clutch is dis-engaging then adjusting it will stop the clutch dragging.
Stu
[Edited on 8/9/14 by whitestu]
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AndyW
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| posted on 8/9/14 at 03:14 PM |
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Thanks so far, any one else has a suggestion would b good to hear. I have adjustment on the cable where it meets the clutch arm, will have a quick
look at that. I do have a very very short travel on the pedal.
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Paul Turner
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| posted on 8/9/14 at 03:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
quote:
You cannot adjust the clutch, you can only adjust the free play in the cable which determines the height of the pedal.
But if the pedal is going to the floor before the clutch is dis-engaging then adjusting it will stop the clutch dragging.
Stu
[Edited on 8/9/14 by whitestu]
Indeed it will but you only adjust the cable and not the clutch itself.
Reading the OP's first post it appears to be saying its getting worse. Its fair to say that a cable may stretch initially and may need a little
adjustment but after 2000 miles it should be fine.
He also appears to be saying its get worse as the car heats up.
Because of those 2 factors I suspect its more than the cable. Release bearing would be my suspicion, they are known to fail.
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whitestu
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| posted on 8/9/14 at 03:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
quote:
You cannot adjust the clutch, you can only adjust the free play in the cable which determines the height of the pedal.
But if the pedal is going to the floor before the clutch is dis-engaging then adjusting it will stop the clutch dragging.
Stu
[Edited on 8/9/14 by whitestu]
Indeed it will but you only adjust the cable and not the clutch itself.
Reading the OP's first post it appears to be saying its getting worse. Its fair to say that a cable may stretch initially and may need a little
adjustment but after 2000 miles it should be fine.
He also appears to be saying its get worse as the car heats up.
Because of those 2 factors I suspect its more than the cable. Release bearing would be my suspicion, they are known to fail.
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You could well be right but I always like to try the easy fixes first!
Stu
[Edited on 8/9/14 by whitestu]
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 8/9/14 at 06:18 PM |
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Andy, do you have a stop on the clutch pedal to stop it from returning too far? I had to fit one to my car because the pedal would come back too far
and allow it to fall backwards . If you have one fitted try temporarily removing it and adjust the cable to pull the pedal backwards then retry 1st
and reverse. If that doesn't work it maybe the spigot bearing jamming on the first motion shaft , rare but I have had it happen a couple of
times and it causes the same symptoms as the clutch dragging.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 8/9/14 at 08:55 PM |
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Before Ford went to ratchet clutch adjustment they used two different methods.
The first used a pedal with a stop and a return spring this type is adjusted to give a specified clearance (slack) when the pedal was against the
stop. As the clutch wears the clearance is taken up.
The later type is called a "floating pedal" the pedal has no pedal stop and either no return spring or a very weak spring on the pedal,
this type is adjusted until the clutch and brake pedals are level. As the clutch wears the pedal rises above the brake pedal.
The rising pedal type was designed to give longer periods between re-adjustments. The actual clutch pressure plate did not change.
If cable isn't getting enough movement then the pedal needs to be re-engineered.
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