mikeb
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posted on 12/5/20 at 01:29 PM |
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Type 9 quick shift kits
Has anyone fitted one of these quick shift kits?
Any views?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ESCORT-MK1-MK2-CAPRI-CORTINA-SIERRA-5-SPEED-TYPE-9-QUICKSHIFT-KIT-MLR-BBA/402229835199?hash=item5da6c435bf:g:sXMAAOSwsTxXjJ
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As my handbrake still gets in the way a little ( i have lowered it as far as I can) I don't want to drop the height of the gear knob to much so
not sure with this kit?
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JimSpencer
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posted on 12/5/20 at 01:43 PM |
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Hi
IMHO these 'half way house' solutions that utilise the stock ball joint don't really cut it..
But if you're thinking of wanting to improve the gear change:-
One of the best single changes I ever made to a Type 9 gear box equipped car was to replace the entire gear lever assembly with a quality one (Quaife
in my case) coupled with an uprated saddle.
Removed all the play and gave a really clean and precise action.
If it helps the Quaife one (and probably others too) come in different lengths.
HTH
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rusty nuts
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posted on 12/5/20 at 03:17 PM |
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I made my own from bits and pieces I had lying around following a post I found on here by David Jenkins , works brilliantly even the reverse gear stop
. Remote and the quick shift cost a total of £0.92
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andyace
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posted on 12/5/20 at 04:19 PM |
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Link for Dave Andrews web page
http://dvandrews.co.uk/
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David Jenkins
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posted on 12/5/20 at 05:16 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by rusty nuts
I made my own from bits and pieces I had lying around following a post I found on here by David Jenkins , works brilliantly even the reverse gear stop
. Remote and the quick shift cost a total of £0.92
He's the link Mel was talking about...
gear extender
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rusty nuts
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posted on 12/5/20 at 05:47 PM |
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I hadn’t fitted the gearbox when I made mine so once the remote was bolted on I put the reverse stop into position , once I was happy with the
position it was tacked on before removing the remote and fully welding . I made the remote using a piece of 8mm mild steel and the part with the bush
to support the selector extension was a steel block that was bolted rather than welded. The gear lever was cut off at the rubber damper a few inches
above the pivot point , there is ample length and a very precise gear change. I know of at least one purchased remote that caused problems fouling the
front prop shaft UJ ,
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David Jenkins
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posted on 12/5/20 at 08:32 PM |
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My gearbox was out of the car when I designed & built the remote - I can't imagine trying to do it with the box in the car. It's
certainly possible, but it wouldn't be too easy as a lot of the pieces were thought about, made and fitted as I went along.
It would be easier if I'd taken the trouble to draw up the design before I fitted the box, but at the time I decided that it was a one-off!
Also I was unsure about its effectiveness and durability... that was about 12 years ago and, apart from one mod for easier lubrication, it's
remained unchanged and untouched.
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mcerd1
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posted on 12/5/20 at 09:24 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by JimSpencer
Hi
IMHO these 'half way house' solutions that utilise the stock ball joint don't really cut it..
But if you're thinking of wanting to improve the gear change:-
One of the best single changes I ever made to a Type 9 gear box equipped car was to replace the entire gear lever assembly with a quality one (Quaife
in my case) coupled with an uprated saddle.
Removed all the play and gave a really clean and precise action.
If it helps the Quaife one (and probably others too) come in different lengths.
HTH
^^ as he says the Quaife one is a very nice bit of kit, but a bit pricey these days...
btw The ones that Caterham use is also a Quaife one and almost identical to the std. short quaife version except for a 3/8" thread for the
gear-nob instead of metric - so maybe keep an eye open for a second hand one of these
https://caterhamparts.co.uk/gearlevers/90-gearlever.html
https://shop.quaife.co.uk/gear-lever-ford-sierra-type-9-5-speed
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mikeb
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posted on 13/5/20 at 03:12 PM |
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I thought this one seemed more reasonable
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ESCORT-MK1-MK2-CAPRI-TYPE-9-5-SPEED-QUICKSHIFT-ROSE-JOINTED-GEARLEVER-UK/124045842916?hash=item1ce1b559e4:g:WAwAAOSwux5YUpF
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is it the same as the caterham ones?
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mikeb
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posted on 13/5/20 at 08:47 PM |
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I have just done the mod on my lever seems to work well and cost nothing. Looking forward to driving it.
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snapper
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posted on 14/5/20 at 08:18 AM |
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I did the Dave Andrews mod and it works well. I don’t know if the article says but you need to space up the gear-lever mound the same distance you
extend the lower part of the lever so 7mm, I drilled the threads out of some nuts and fixed them to the underside of the gear-lever mounting plate
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mcerd1
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posted on 14/5/20 at 10:52 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by mikeb
I thought this one seemed more reasonable
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ESCORT-MK1-MK2-CAPRI-TYPE-9-5-SPEED-QUICKSHIFT-ROSE-JOINTED-GEARLEVER-UK/124045842916?hash=item1ce1b559e4:g:WAwAAOSwux5YUpF
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is it the same as the caterham ones?
it looks like that one has been made by welding the parts together rather than the fancy CNC machined bits that quaife/caterham use - not saying
thats a bad thing, if its made well it could be a very good alternative to the quaife type one.
I should add that the quaife one I have is actually adjustable (got mine direct from quaife a few years back before the prices went up...), you can
remove the spherical bearing and spacers and install them in reverse order to change the ratio of the shift, probably not needed but nice to have
Also burtons sell this kit - ismilar to the one in your original post but much cheaper
https://www.burtonpower.com/quickshift-gearlever-kit-type-9-5-speed-ford-sierra-qs03k.html
[Edited on 14/5/2020 by mcerd1]
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Nevtiger
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posted on 20/5/20 at 03:41 PM |
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I have had mixed results with the rose jointed kits. they are always really noisy i find.
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mikeb
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posted on 20/5/20 at 03:54 PM |
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Just by way of update, I performed the simple modification. I was careful measuring to ensure i moved the pivot point the same as the size of the
spacers I used.
Gear change is much improved, the throw is reduced and the left to right movement across the box is also less circa 25% ish.
Only issue is it seems slightly harder to get reverse, (more the push down motion before moving across the gate), there's no issues getting it
in reverse gear but it takes a bit more effort.
I'd recommend doing the mod first as its virtually free, if you still aren't happy then splash out on one of the custom levers, I'm
sure they would also offer another step up in shift quality from the modded lever.
I was looking at the metal saddle, but at the min happy with the shift.
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mcerd1
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posted on 20/5/20 at 09:44 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Nevtiger
I have had mixed results with the rose jointed kits. they are always really noisy i find.
your not the only one that feels that way:
https://www.burtonpower.com/quickshift-gear-lever-quiet-type-9-5-speed-ford-sierra-qs23.html
https://www.retroford.co.uk/product/zero-noise-type-9-5-speed-heavy-duty-quick-shift-gear-stick-drt024-nr-2/
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