the moa 2
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| posted on 4/2/05 at 07:02 PM |
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Toyota 4AG ZE
Hi been looking at the Toyota engines and am considering whether or not to get the supercharged version of the toyota 1600cc twin cam 4AGZE .
Has anyone fitted one of these or does anyone know if they will fit into my Luego Locost
chassis ?
I know people have fitted the standard one but havent seen the supercharged unit anywhere.
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 4/2/05 at 08:04 PM |
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ISTR that the supercharged 4AGE's have to be imported as they were only available in Japan.
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Arthur Dent
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| posted on 4/2/05 at 08:47 PM |
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North America also had them as an option in 88-89 MR2
'The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go
wrong goes wrong, it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair.' Douglas Adams
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the moa 2
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| posted on 4/2/05 at 10:00 PM |
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Yeah i know they are imported but they are fairly easy to get hold of.
But what i want to know is if anyone has fitted one into a 7 based kit chassislike my luego locost or whether the chassis would have to be modified ?
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dmottaway
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| posted on 4/2/05 at 11:18 PM |
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IMHO, the only fitment consideration would be the mounting of the intercooler. In the MR2 and the ae92(?), the intercooler sits on top the engine,
making a very tall package. a little bit of plumbing work, though, and you should be able to overcome this situation.
dave
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 5/2/05 at 10:40 AM |
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quote:
But what i want to know is if anyone has fitted one into a 7 based kit chassislike my luego locost or whether the chassis would have to be modified
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Try giving RAW a call. They import them and presumably have put them in a S.Taylor chassis.
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the moa 2
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| posted on 23/2/05 at 12:39 AM |
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im suprised no one here hasnt yet fitted one !
i was thinking that the inlet would be too big but i guess im not gonna know until i get some proper measurements etc so maybe i could give raw a call
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Findlay234
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| posted on 23/2/05 at 08:26 AM |
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as long as you buy an intercooler (or one from a scrappy) and mount it forward of the engine you shouldnt have any problems at all.
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Rob Lane
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| posted on 23/2/05 at 10:45 AM |
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Probably no-one has fitted one here because they are not cheap !
To get everything for a ZE to work costs about 12-1500 pounds !
They are sought after and fetch quite a premium.
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Ben Smith
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| posted on 23/2/05 at 12:17 PM |
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There is one in a phoenix. The car was built by RAW and is now owned by someone in newport. It is a very quick car and is often found lapping everyone
at llandow!
Ben.
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 23/2/05 at 11:42 PM |
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I thought these engines were low blow and were only of similar power to the 20 valve engines,obviously torquey but a throttle bodied 16 or 20 valve
4age would probably put out more bhp.
I've not looked at the specs on these engines for a while so correct me if I'm wrong.
DEAN.
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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timsta
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| posted on 24/2/05 at 12:11 AM |
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I was looking at using one of these.
I found a company that sells them complete with ecu and FWD gearbox from 900 + P&P
http://www.jbmotorsport.co.uk/productssimple5.html
[Edited on 24/2/05 by timsta]
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Ben Smith
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| posted on 24/2/05 at 09:44 AM |
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I believe if you change the pulley size you can get approx 180-200 bhp. The supercharger gives a lot more torque to an already great engine. But
I'm biased as my car has a 16v 4age with cams. About 150-160 bhp.
Ben.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 24/2/05 at 02:41 PM |
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what about std 4AGE + decompression plate between head and block (thick copper headgasket basically) + mini Cooper S supercharger, £150 off Ebay!!
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Dale
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| posted on 24/2/05 at 04:03 PM |
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I could be incorrect but I think the prefered choice of those engines is to remove the SC and turbocharge it as the internals are already bumpped up
and then you can up the boost up to a much higher level. On a fuel injected engine the lag would not show up as a pause but just a narrower
powerband- On a car this light having reasonable power to start off with might not be a bad idea so you dont melt the tires as your trying to get
going.
Dale
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Kelvin
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| posted on 24/2/05 at 04:13 PM |
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The preferred choice amongst the MR2 community is, if you're keeping the 4-AGE, to twin charge it, getting the best of both worlds. The other
alternative is to replace it with the MK2 turbo engine, 3S-GT (?).
Persoanally i would stick with the SC, as I'm not a fan of turbos. Fitting a bigger lower pulley from people such as fensport, is the easiest
way to increase the power output.
Oh, and it's really not worth the hassle of putting an SC onto a NA 4-AGE, might as well get the AGZE, along with the loom, ecu and sensors and
save an awful lot of time and pain.
Kelvin
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