2b_pablo
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 08:42 AM |
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cost of pinto -> R1?
I know I have my 7 up for sale but just done a trackday yesterday in it and absolutely loved it! Craving more power though (as always).
I dont really see the point in putting cash into the pinto so looking to BEC it. Ive a rough idea of whats involved but would like to get a feel for
how much it will cost. Ive a 2L pinto with type9 box, sierra prop and diff
parts I think I need to do the conversion:
engine with carbs
gearbox
loom
ecu
new prop?
reverse gearbox?
exhaust manifold
fuel pump
misc cables for throttle/clutch
I can probably resuse my silencer with a little jigging
my speedo/rpm is fine as its the vapour
Any help appreciated.
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graememk
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 08:47 AM |
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wouldnt a robinhood 2b be a bit to heavy for a bec ?
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2b_pablo
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 08:52 AM |
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it would also be going on a hefty diet!
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takumi
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 08:54 AM |
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ditching the pinto will save 80kg! compared to a BE..
that 'might' bring it into the 600-700kg bracket..
[Edited on 22-10-07 by takumi]
RobinHood 2B 2.0i pinto, Keihin 38mm Carbs, lightened flywheel, O'Mori remote filter kit, 10 row oil cooler. Modified head, 10.2cr, special
valves FR22 cam, 4- 1 header.
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2b_pablo
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 08:58 AM |
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mine isnt actually a 2b either its a mark 2 apparantly. not that it probably makes much difference.
didnt find out till after I chose the username 
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locoboy
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 09:06 AM |
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Factor in about £1500 and you should be about right with a bit of shopping about.
ATB
Locoboy
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2b_pablo
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 09:09 AM |
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was thinking 2k so thats not too bad.
there is a local lad selling an 890ish cc blade engine would that compare to an R1? At least Id be able to see it running and not worry about shipping
etc.
Lastly how do you gearshift on a BEC?
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Davey D
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 09:33 AM |
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The gearbox is part of the engine, so no need for a separate one. also you dont have to have a reverse. you have several options including an electric
reverse made from a starter motor, a reverse box in between you engine, and dif, and an all in one dif, and revers box which costs ££££
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2b_pablo
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 09:38 AM |
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cheapest option to move it in and out of the garage would be grand 
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smart51
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 09:50 AM |
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You could get a nice tuned zetec for that much. Lots of power and you can use the same gearbox, prop and exhaust hole cut out in your bodywork. A
much simpler job as you don't have to hack the chassis to fit the different shaped engine in. Got to be worth thinking about.
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2b_pablo
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 09:52 AM |
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oh it its definately on my mind alright.
what kind of power are you getting from the zetec?
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stuart_g
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 10:21 AM |
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I was told my 2b when I had it was too heavy for a bike engine, yours is not a 2b I know but they are virtually the same and the stainless chassis is
too heavy.
I would go Zetec, I fitted a 1.8 to my 2b no problem. I have lots of pics if you want me to email them to you.
You will have to fill the whole where your exhaust is in the bodywork as the zetec is the opposite way round to a pinto.
Power wise you can expect approx 150bhp from a 1.8 running megajolt and bike carbs (you have to start with a 130bhp engine to begin with though). You
can get more if you fuel inject it. The 2.0l will give you more power but the engine is taller and you will run into clearance problems with the cam
cover and the sump. The 1.8 fits just about right.
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2b_pablo
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 10:26 AM |
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Am I going to see a big advantage in a zetec over the pinto tho?
I guess a redtop XE is another option.
pics would be great of the zetec tho, address is paul.mck<at>lineone.net
thanks
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stuart_g
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 10:41 AM |
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pic's on the way.
I think if you really want a BEC then the best way is to continue to sell the RH and buy a car that is meant for a bike engine. you will be throwing
money away converting the RH, you're better off putting the money towards a different car IMHO.
[Edited on 22/10/07 by stuart_g]
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2b_pablo
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 10:43 AM |
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thanks
out of interest why do people put carbs on them rather than reuse the std fuelling system? Can you not just run it off the std ecu?
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stuart_g
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 10:47 AM |
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The standard inlet fits on top of the cam cover making the engine too tall. The std ecu will work if you fancy butchering the wiring loom although you
have to get very early electrics without immobiliser as this won't work without the correct key. Also the std ecu and inlet is very restrictive,
megajolt can be set to the optimum and is more configurable.
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mookaloid
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 03:16 PM |
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I think for a RH, I would give serious consideration to a Rover V8 
It weighs about the same as a pinto but it will deal with the weight of the car better due it's stump pulling amounts of torque
Cheers
Mark
"That thing you're thinking - it wont be that."
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2b_pablo
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| posted on 22/10/07 at 03:56 PM |
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pushes the nose enough with the pinto thanks!!!
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