Andi
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 08:38 AM |
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Bike Carbs
R1 or Fireblade?
Currently running R1`s on a 2L Pinto which are in need of an overhaul, but have the option of a cheap set of Blades.
What to do?
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r1_pete
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 08:56 AM |
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If the blade carbs are cheap, you haven't much to loose buying and trying....
Whats wrong with R1's that a clean wont put right??
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Andi
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 09:21 AM |
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Got 2 cracked float bowls and missing idle mixture screw (screws on order) but may get the Blade carbs for £25 of a relative, which I will try when
he gets to the UK but was wondering if there are any issues with them, i.e the R1`s are almost plug and play so hope the Blades are after jetting.
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DarrenW
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 10:27 AM |
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My older ZZR's were almost plug and play so ill guess anything newer will be too.
Built in throttle sensor is nice to have if you have an option (makes change to megajolt easier at a later date).
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DarrenW
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 10:29 AM |
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How bad are the float bowls? Can they not be repaired with JB weld? Following usual cleanliness rules and roughing up surface and that stuff is
fantastic. Worth trying for £4 or so. Read the packet or website, its amazing what that stuff has been used for before.
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Pdlewis
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 10:30 AM |
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Andi,
The manifold you have is made for ZZR carbs (as it used to be DarrenW's) so may be worth investigating
Cheers
Paul
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myke pocock
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 10:57 AM |
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I have Fireblade carbs (Keihin I think)on my Skoda trials car and Dave Bogg of Bogg Bros, (the bike carb on car engine experts) said he prefers the
Yamaha (are they Mikuni) carbs as they are easier to tune. The needle has a number of grooves with a circlip that allows for adjustment of the
positioning of the needle. Mine just have a packer washer that can be removed but not as variable.
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Andi
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 11:04 AM |
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Will try the J B.
Thanks all.
The build is coming on well Paul
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DarrenW
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 11:17 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by myke pocock
I have Fireblade carbs (Keihin I think)on my Skoda trials car and Dave Bogg of Bogg Bros, (the bike carb on car engine experts) said he prefers the
Yamaha (are they Mikuni) carbs as they are easier to tune. The needle has a number of grooves with a circlip that allows for adjustment of the
positioning of the needle. Mine just have a packer washer that can be removed but not as variable.
My ZZR's are keihin and have the grooves and clips on the needles. Dave tuned them no probs at all. Probs does like the others better but he
didnt say anything while i was there. He's just a top bloke who does his best no matter what the challenge.
Doesnt matter what carbs you put on a car a proper tune up is always recommended. Some bike carbs need a hole blocking off but other than that ive not
heard of any serious mods being required on any - so i guess they are all plug and play to a point .
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mcerd1
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 12:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
My ZZR's are keihin and have the grooves and clips on the needles. Dave tuned them no probs at all. Probs does like the others better but he
didnt say anything while i was there. He's just a top bloke who does his best no matter what the challenge.
Dave (Bogg bros.) sold me a set of ZX9R carbs (E or F model = keihin CVR's) for my 2.1 pinto on the basis that they are just as good as R1 carbs
(Mikuni) but easier to find a set
they had quite a few sets of the older keihin's on the shelf too
[Edited on 22/7/08 by mcerd1]
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whitestu
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 02:04 PM |
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ZX6Rs have 37.5mm Mikunis with TPS, and are dead cheap.
They work well on my Zetec.
Stu
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Pdlewis
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| posted on 22/7/08 at 02:58 PM |
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Yes its only in very early stages they moved me to work in the UK so I have a bit of time now :-) did try not having a car to fiddle with but couldnt
dot it.
I think you would be best with the ZZR carbs if you can get the rubbers as they will go straight on the manifold. You should also be able to get a
fair wack for the R1 carbs Ill have a look in my garage i may have a spare float bowl kicking arround which could be of use
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myke pocock
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| posted on 23/7/08 at 09:33 AM |
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Yeah, I may have got the names round the wrong way for the carbs. As I said, mine were ex Fireblade but they go like stink on my Skoda engine now.
Well worth the effort.
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jamie1107
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| posted on 25/7/08 at 07:27 PM |
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the 80s early 1990s gk i think series of gsxr 750 and 1000s also use kenghin carbs which fit pinto s a treat if you go for the later ones they also
have a handy throttle position sensor just right for a megajolt programable wasted spark ignition system
also those carbs are always cheap on ebay think the last ones we used came off a slabside 750
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