focijohn
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| posted on 6/8/08 at 04:08 PM |
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price help please!
Someones advertising a 1.8 silvertop zetec out of a formula ford. I went to have a look at it today and it comes "complete" with dry sump
kit (minus oil tank) all engine electrics with a Formula Ford T2 brain. and no alternator. How ever because of space and where it sits in the car it
doesnt have a conventional pully set up just a pissy lil belt one driving the water pump and one the oil pump, would this be hard to convert back to
the ribbed belt because of needing a alternator on the road?!
The engines internals are completely standard to abide by the championship rules, as is the induction and inlet.
The guy wants 800 quid for everything, is this a reasonable price to pay or OTT?
Regards
John
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Too many targets but too few bullets.
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scootz
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| posted on 6/8/08 at 04:15 PM |
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Just for reference... I bought a fully refreshed (looked brand new) FF Zetec engine with Dry Sump and Intake from a well respected race engineering
company for £650 last year.
I'd try and haggle on the price a little.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 6/8/08 at 04:20 PM |
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Do you need a dry sump set up ?
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JimSpencer
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| posted on 6/8/08 at 04:20 PM |
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Hi
Agree it sounds a bit expensive.
But if you can beat him down a bit I would go for it, as the dry sump saves loads of phaffing about later when you decide you want one, and you
will..
Just so your heart's not in your mouth on every bumpy road you go over, and as for speed humps 
Currently looking to dry sump a 4age and it's going to cost me more than that just for the bits..
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focijohn
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| posted on 6/8/08 at 04:21 PM |
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yer i thought that's what he was going to say about the 600 mark, the guy who met me said that he wouldn't take any less than 800, he
originally wanted 900. Don't get me wrong this engine is spotless just seemed alot of money considering it is stock internals, even if it has
been race preped by a well know company (cant remember the name). Might be worth biding my time!
[Edited on 6/8/08 by focijohn]
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Too many targets but too few bullets.
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JimSpencer
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| posted on 6/8/08 at 04:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
Do you need a dry sump set up ?
A striker is VERY tight on space in all directions 
To give you an idea mine has a chopped wet sump 4AGE in it, with the rocker cover nearly touching the underside of the bonnet there is 40mm under the
sump to the ground..
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focijohn
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| posted on 6/8/08 at 04:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JimSpencer
A striker is VERY tight on space in all directions
To give you an idea mine has a chopped wet sump 4AGE in it, with the rocker cover nearly touching the underside of the bonnet there is 40mm under the
sump to the ground..
40mm
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Too many targets but too few bullets.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 6/8/08 at 05:30 PM |
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Oh...
Did you have a measure ?
The zetec is a tall engine and you wont loose a great deal more than a chopped wet sump.
What bhp was it putting out ?
Its probaly not a bad deal if you take into acount the ecu.
The fiesta/escort style alloy inlet manifold they use is also very tall.
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focijohn
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| posted on 6/8/08 at 06:52 PM |
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Not sure what power but like i said everything internally was standard to keep to the formula ford regs that included the EFI manifold etc! So answers
on a post card to what difference the brain makes 20ish brake at a complete guess--> 130 140???
Trying to think what sort of blacktop 2.0 i could buy and do up for £800???
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Too many targets but too few bullets.
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JimSpencer
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| posted on 7/8/08 at 08:33 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by focijohn
Not sure what power but like i said everything internally was standard to keep to the formula ford regs that included the EFI manifold etc! So answers
on a post card to what difference the brain makes 20ish brake at a complete guess--> 130 140???
Trying to think what sort of blacktop 2.0 i could buy and do up for £800???
Yup something like that, but the value is in who built it, if it's from one of the well know FF builders (Scholar etc) then it'll be
blueprinted / balanced etc etc and that makes a huge difference to the way it drives.
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focijohn
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| posted on 7/8/08 at 12:48 PM |
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Scholar is the engine builder you just reminded me Jim, and yes its blueprinted. Last re-build I was informed was about 2k ago but i cant imagine that
its had an easy life on the tracks but..... its going to have been really well looked after.
[Edited on 7/8/08 by focijohn]
Anyone going slower than you is an idiot. Anyone going faster than you is a maniac.
Too many targets but too few bullets.
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