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omega0684

posted on 7/8/08 at 03:25 PM Reply With Quote
long and short duration cams

what is a long duration cam? im assuming there are also short durationa as apposed to what normal cams? what is the difference between the two? i have an fr32 cam, is this long duration? what are the pro's and con's
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Mr Whippy

posted on 7/8/08 at 03:34 PM Reply With Quote
simply refers to the amount of time the valve stay open and hence the amount of overlap when both valves are open at the same time. Long duration if IRC are for high speeds giving the air more time to move in and out the cylinder but produce less torque at low speeds due to more of the inlet charge escaping out the exhaust valve (hence never producing any work) and short durations work best at low speeds producing higher torque. Normal cams as supplied by the car manufacturer are a compromise between the two types depending on what the car is intended to do.

[Edited on 7/8/08 by Mr Whippy]






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omega0684

posted on 7/8/08 at 03:41 PM Reply With Quote
so how do i know if my fr32 cam is long or short?
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Mr Whippy

posted on 7/8/08 at 03:45 PM Reply With Quote
look up the code on the manufactures site, normally they give all the details.

like this on the kent cam site -


FR32 Camshaft Sports ' R '

Application Power Band Cam Lift(mm) Valve Lift(mm) Duration Timing Full Lift VC (mm) LTDC Required Parts
Sports ' R ' 2500 - 7000 6.98 I 11.22 E 10.92 I 285 Deg E 280 Deg 34/71 68/32 108 Deg I 0.25 E 0.30 I 2.18mm CF36 / VS9

http://www.kentcams.com/product/prodDets.aspx?PartNum=FR34&CatID=1&PartID=160&VehPartID=788&ModEngID=225


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Rod Ends

posted on 7/8/08 at 03:58 PM Reply With Quote
http://hometown.aol.com/dvandrews/cams.htm
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westf27

posted on 7/8/08 at 04:19 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
what is a long duration cam? im assuming there are also short durationa as apposed to what normal cams? what is the difference between the two? i have an fr32 cam, is this long duration? what are the pro's and con's


read this will explain most of what you need to know

http://hometown.aol.com/dvandrews/index.htm

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westf27

posted on 7/8/08 at 04:20 PM Reply With Quote
I am getting better only overlapped the post 21 mins.
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BenB

posted on 7/8/08 at 04:21 PM Reply With Quote
Cams with big overlap usually produce more power because you get better venting of the exhaust from the cylinder. Trouble is you may also get some of the intake charge shooting of the exhaust valve so emissions go up too.

On a forced induction set-up "wild" cams with big overlap can actually reduce power because instead of the pressure building up the intake charge pressure goes hooning out of the exhaust!! Hence forced induction cams are often quite "mild" compared to wild NA cams.

If the cam is out of the car you can quite easily measure the overlap....

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britishtrident

posted on 7/8/08 at 06:07 PM Reply With Quote
Short duration - big overlap cams where the valves are open for longer over TDC at the end of exhaust - beginning of induction stroke tend to push the peak power higher up the range.

With twincam heads retiming altering the angular relationship of the cams to each other has a major effect of the rpm peak torque occurs at.

With a single camshaft with both inlet and exhaust lobes altering the timing has much less effect (and any effect is usually negative) because the durration is fixed when the lobes are ground.

Short durration cams often can only be designed to have have limited lift because of valve train accelerations.





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