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Richard Quinn

posted on 28/8/08 at 11:46 AM Reply With Quote
Airbox (with a difference)

Ok, I'm looking for some suggestions as to a suitable air filter/airbox for my BEC. Now for the "with a difference" bit - it is a V twin so has two (quite large!) throttle bodies that are pretty much vertical and close together.
Any suggestions gratefully received.

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Paul TigerB6

posted on 28/8/08 at 11:48 AM Reply With Quote
Take the RSV out and fit a proper bike engine!!

You got a pic of it??

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Miks15

posted on 28/8/08 at 12:07 PM Reply With Quote
ive always liked the one made out of the exhaust can (cant remember who it was but im sure someone will know!)

Mabye you can do something a bit like that and make one yourself?






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blakep82

posted on 28/8/08 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
r1 pete^





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smart51

posted on 28/8/08 at 02:58 PM Reply With Quote
Make one. It isn't hard.
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Richard Quinn

posted on 28/8/08 at 04:42 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
Take the RSV out and fit a proper bike engine!!

You got a pic of it??


It's only a stopgap until the first RSV4s are released and stuffed next year. Then I shall be getting me one of those!!
I have got a photo but it is without the throttle bodies fitted which isn't that helpful!

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NS Dev

posted on 28/8/08 at 06:23 PM Reply With Quote
Mille - not a proper bike engine????

LOL

They have a better torque spread than an R1, and ok less power but they still make 135hp at the wheel on the bike, whatever that is at the engine, and rev freely to 11,000 which isn't too shoddy for a twin!!...... (talking 2004 on engines here like the two I'm using)

Re. the airbox, I'm using plain old K&N's (I think they are for weber 55 dcoe's or something) directly on top of the throttle bodies, with ram pipes inside.





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NS Dev

posted on 28/8/08 at 06:24 PM Reply With Quote
Mille - not a proper bike engine????

LOL

They have a better torque spread than an R1, and ok less power but they still make 135hp at the wheel on the bike, whatever that is at the engine, and rev freely to 11,000 which isn't too shoddy for a twin!!...... (talking 2004 on engines here like the two I'm using)

Re. the airbox, I'm using plain old K&N's (I think they are for weber 55 dcoe's or something) directly on top of the throttle bodies, with ram pipes inside.





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Richard Quinn

posted on 28/8/08 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the support Nat! That's all we need, a divide in the BEC camp. Mine is the older one but I have the good fortune of knowing someone who races and tunes them as well as selling them for a living. There are lots of performance parts that have been developed and then banned in certain formulae. As a result it is now cammed and has even bigger throttle bodies (I think they are now 57mm!)
Anyway, I already sort of have a V4. It's just that 2 cylinders are in the car and the other2 are in the shed. You really can get 2 for the price of an R1 so I'm buying them all so it can stay as Nat's, Pathfinder's and my special club!

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Paul TigerB6

posted on 29/8/08 at 08:14 AM Reply With Quote
Maybe you shouldnt let me work on it Richard - I might end up wanting one!!!
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Richard Quinn

posted on 29/8/08 at 10:41 AM Reply With Quote
Like I said, there's one in my shed (well, it's more of a kit but it's all there!). I believe you like a challenge?
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Paul TigerB6

posted on 29/8/08 at 10:46 AM Reply With Quote
hehehe - well i recon it might be too tall as the Tiger B6 sits an inch or two lower than the MK Indy etc, and with the shape of the bonnet, its not such a simple job to add a scoop to clear the filter / airbox. I think it will be pretty tight even with the ZX10R with AB Performance sump to gain clearance. Never know though - will have to look at your engine when i pop up.
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NS Dev

posted on 31/8/08 at 09:51 AM Reply With Quote
pathfinder fitted his under lowline bodywork.

PS take a look at Froggy (on here) and his latest developments!!

Since winning the PPC £999 challenge with his TL1000 V twin powered kitten van he's now twin engined that and adding nitrous for both engines!!





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jamie1107

posted on 31/8/08 at 04:14 PM Reply With Quote
why not go for a toblerone shape upside down in the v with a ram coming out of the flat top cold air and plent of it bike engines love it
they do ! lol

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froggy

posted on 2/9/08 at 07:22 PM Reply With Quote
id try and adapt the stock airbox as twins are usually designed with pulse damping biult in to the airbox,my tl has vac operated dapmer valve built in which i am trying to keep as it makes part load running a lot smoother and the efi maps take the damping effect into account so you could have some part load afr niggles if you ditch the box





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froggy

posted on 2/9/08 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
my two tl,s cost £800 complete so ive got a 2 litre v4 making a GENUINE 250hp revving to 11k and with a sequential close ratio 6speed box. i doubt there is a cec package like that for under a grand







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