rallyslag
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 05:21 PM |
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TT V8 or Bike engine?
What do you people sugest for my locost
a high powered Twin turbo V8 or some form of bike engine?
my driving style will be somwhere along the lines of foot to the floor 
i plan on using it for ragging around B roads and occasional track days
Old chinese proverb: "If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?"
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 05:30 PM |
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no comment, other than what did that add used to say.... ???
oh i remember......."think bike" 
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chrisg
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 05:41 PM |
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That was an unexpected response from Mr Ison
Cheers
Chris
(I'd have the V8 BTW) 
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 05:45 PM |
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twin bike then.........,
i want a MKGT1 anyways....... 
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rallyslag
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 05:46 PM |
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well i think the torquey V8 would give some nice arse out action
but id imagine due to the weight of the bike engine it would be slightly quicker off the mark?
at the moment i think the TT V8 looks more attractive
Old chinese proverb: "If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?"
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Simon
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| posted on 13/9/02 at 11:00 PM |
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You are going to have to do some thinking about weight distribution (RV8 approx same weight as Pinto then turbos and ancilliaries), cooling (imagine
getting turbo's glowing - your feet will roast nicely), probably need massive radiator, and oil cooler, intercooler etc.
hicost has Cossy lump in his - suggest you look at space under bonnet. Believe his car weighs in at 700+ kg (apologies h if I'm wrong).
I'd suggest Turbo'd bike engine as you obviously have quite a budget!! Hayabusa can manage over 400 bhp when turbo'd. Very light - might be able to
keep weight of car to 500kgs.
My thoughts anyway!!
ATB
Simon
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johnston
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| posted on 14/9/02 at 07:44 AM |
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yeah turbo'd busa engine look in last months ccc with the dax for the power figures
is locodude sick??????? no mention of stickin to a x flow yet!!!!!!!!!
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chrisg
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| posted on 14/9/02 at 10:02 AM |
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No computer in his tent!!!
He's at Donnington
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 14/9/02 at 12:59 PM |
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no but he's gotta pur up wi my snorin....off now....ceya tomorrow Mr G.....
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rallyslag
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| posted on 14/9/02 at 08:36 PM |
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well its not that i have lots of money
its that i spend all the money i have on cars
somtimes i even have money left over for food
i was going to make the locost chassis a bit wider based on the 422? chassis?
the V8 would seem cheaper tho due to the abundance of parts for it and less fragile than the bike engines seem
its not just bhp i want but plenty of torque too
as for cooling ill prolly just have to pinch some intake scoops from a fighter jet or somthing simililar
Old chinese proverb: "If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?"
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 05:21 PM |
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think if you'd have been at donnington today then you may have changed your mind......with a few exceptions BECS was on top form.....
Fragile..... 
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Macca
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 05:38 PM |
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And the exceptions were?
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johnston
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 05:44 PM |
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the ones that cant handle the stress
nothin lie a big heavy car engine for reliablity by any chance
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 06:03 PM |
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Exceptions,,,,,,Jame's and his 400hp fire breathing cosworth, (thnx for the ride james) whatever was in the back of the ultima.... can't think of
too much else,
the only ones to throw there guts onto the track came from CEC's i'm afraid, this fragile thing makes me giggle....
yeah they'v less tourqe, non a this, can't do that, but iv'e driven mine today with the foot firmly planted to the floor for what must be 50+ laps
of donnington at speeds well over the ton, most two up, (including chrisg, lite he is not) and all she does is sit there ticking over crying More,
More More, driven like for like the BEC may be a lot o things but fragile it aint....
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johnston
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 06:06 PM |
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hoew much is a blade engine anyway??
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 06:13 PM |
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legal ones from £700 up.....dont forget you get multi plate clutch, 6 speed sequentional box, four flatside carbs, oh and it all weighs bugger all for
free.......
no engine numbers, don't buy it.....
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interestedparty
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 06:41 PM |
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For a long time I have been wary, to say the least, about bike engines in cars. I've got to admit, though, that cost for cost, weight for weight and
bhp for bhp they are the ideal choice for a light car such as a Locost.
People complain that they have little torque, but what they mean is not much torque at low rpm.
John
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rallyslag
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 07:17 PM |
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hmmm decisions decisions
i see where your coming from tho with the locost being so light n all
gonna have to give this a long hard think
altho it might take so long to decide that i might aswell just build one of each
Old chinese proverb: "If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?"
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locodude
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 08:09 PM |
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I'm Back!
Give me an all steel, big valve, lumpy cammed, throttle boddied, omex ignited x-flow snorter any day! (tongue planted firmly in cheek!) Seriously
tho' only a Lottery win away!
Chris PTM
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rallyslag
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 08:31 PM |
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well i do have a nice brand new 16v RS2000 engine sitting here but thats going my escort i think
i think for the pure fun factor ill go with V8 in the locost
Old chinese proverb: "If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?"
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paulbeyer
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 09:14 PM |
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quote:
no but he's gotta pur up wi my snorin....off now....ceya tomorrow Mr G.....
As it happened Jon, snoring was the least of PTM's problems. You had us in stitches trying to turn PTM's tent into a hot air balloon. (Blame it on
the beer not my BBQ prowess).
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rallyslag
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| posted on 15/9/02 at 09:18 PM |
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lol i am real
i just have a habit of thinking out loud
Old chinese proverb: "If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?"
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dashin_dave
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 posted on 17/9/02 at 02:54 AM |
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with regards to the v8 idea, if your going to go to bugger around with fitting one, which looks potentially painful (not that i'd know, havnt got
that far yet), and aint fitting one) you could simplify the plan quite a bit by using a supercharger. only have to source one and only have to plumb
one lot of air through an intercooler and into a plenum... or... how entertainingly silly would an old roots GM6-71 look sticking out the bonnet of a
locost....
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rallyslag
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| posted on 19/9/02 at 08:13 PM |
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ok iv been reading around a lot and i think ill have to make a busa blade
they go like poo off a shovel
i think once iv built that maybye i can start on a V8/V10 somthing or another
Old chinese proverb: "If a man speaks in a forest, and no woman hears him, is he still wrong?"
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Macca
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| posted on 19/9/02 at 08:24 PM |
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ok iv been reading around a lot and i think ill have to make a busa blade
So thats two engines from two different bikes and two different capacities?
Sounds like a doddle!
Col
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