steve m
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| posted on 13/12/13 at 09:44 PM |
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lotus twin cam head
Will a Lotus twin cam head fit on a standard xflow ?
as ive found one in my parents shed, from when I had a 2+2 elan in 1985
steve
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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slingshot2000
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| posted on 13/12/13 at 09:49 PM |
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I am sure it will, but I am about to go to the pub for a beer with two old time local Lotus gurus, I will ask them !
Do you know what car it came from originally ?
Regards
Jon
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steve m
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| posted on 13/12/13 at 09:57 PM |
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It came off a 1598 lotus xflow 2+2 elan (1969 )
And I can not even remember why !!
I would like to put it on my 1660 711 xflow engine,
Steve
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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Nickp
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| posted on 13/12/13 at 10:28 PM |
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You'll need the rest of the Lotus 'gubbins' though, timing gear etc
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sjmatthews
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| posted on 13/12/13 at 10:31 PM |
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Think it is possible, but there is a spacer reqd for the timing cover. Like this...
eBay Item
I'll be in the garage dear!
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Nickp
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| posted on 13/12/13 at 10:39 PM |
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Or you could just flog it, buy a Zetec and pop a Lotus cam cover on maybe?
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SPYDER
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| posted on 13/12/13 at 11:07 PM |
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You'd need to find out if twincam type ie. pocketed, pistons are available to suit the bore of your block. I think you'd need the Lotus
crank and rods too. A good twincam head will fetch around £1k though...
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britishtrident
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| posted on 13/12/13 at 11:14 PM |
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Basically you need the front timing case , special spacer plate, chain tensioner and chain, water pump suitable pistons, the block over bored and deck
machined, exhaust manifold.
All of which are not cheap and likewise any repair work on the head.
All of the above assumes it is a DCOE/DHLA head not a Zenith-Sromberg which is only useful as a parts donor.
If it is a Webber head sell it. is worth real money.
[Edited on 13/12/13 by britishtrident]
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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Bare
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 02:20 AM |
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IMO: Find some certifiable Twit to buy the damned thing and use the proceeds to buy a complete FAR more sophisticated/ reliable current engine.
Most any one :-)
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cs3tcr
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 04:15 AM |
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IMO ignore Bare, and read what everyone else said. Its not a simple bolt on, but can be made to work.
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snapper
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 07:54 AM |
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The Elan/Cortina twin cam is an iconic engine
Would make your car really stand out and was fitted to some Lotus 7's
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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steve m
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 09:51 AM |
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It is the Stromberg version, hence why I changed it, as when I sold the car it had webbers on it
some good info above except one idiot,
Ive googled changing the head from strombergs to webbers, and it is possible, just need to find someone decent
with a milling machine
I then need to source all the other bits !!
Steve
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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HowardB
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 09:55 AM |
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Try Paul at Exxon racing in Coalville. . Bit of a lotus twin cam "enthusiast" 
Howard
Fisher Fury was 2000 Zetec - now a 1600 (it Lives again and goes zoom)
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snapper
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 09:55 AM |
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Turbosports forum is exceptional for old ford engines, loads of good advise
Why not fuel inject with bike throttle bodies
I eat to survive
I drink to forget
I breath to pi55 my ex wife off (and now my ex partner)
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britishtrident
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 12:52 PM |
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Thinking about you could avoid carving up the head by megasquirting, the Stromberg inlet tracts could be opened up to blend into a plenum bolted on
to the flanges, or you could use a throttlebody on each inlet flange.
But keep in mind these are fragile engines and cost an arm and a leg to rebuild and the power output will be way below a standard silver top or Rover
K.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 02:12 PM |
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i know of two completely new Lotus TC engines, dry sumped that came from a Bankrupt GT project in the early eighties ...
ive been offered them ...
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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Nickp
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 02:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
i know of two completely new Lotus TC engines, dry sumped that came from a Bankrupt GT project in the early eighties ...
ive been offered them ...
Many ££'s?? 
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 02:56 PM |
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im not sure he knows how much theyre worth in actual money.....
im trying to remember which racing car it was , id never really heard of it , apparently FF1600 chassis with twin cam engines , and different bodywork
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www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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Nickp
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 03:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
im not sure he knows how much theyre worth in actual money.....
Maybe he needs bidding before he realizes then 
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bob
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 03:24 PM |
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Steve...nice project, certainly keeps the enthusiasm juices flowing.
Keep me up to speed on this one ;-)
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 03:28 PM |
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itll be more money than i have spare anyway...
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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907
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 04:13 PM |
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I had one of those to play with the other week.
It was in an original Lotus Seven, complete with clamshells.
Arn't they just wonderful.
Paul G
 
Lotus Twinc
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britishtrident
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 05:13 PM |
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They sound wonderful but in truth they are 40 year old design fragile time consuming and expensive to own and maintain.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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Paul Turner
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 05:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
but in truth they are 40 year old design
They came out in 1963 for the Elan and Lotus Cortina. I make that 50 years.
And as nice as they may appear they have always been a money pit unless you are prepared to pay someone loads of money who really knows the engines
and how to avoid all the pitfalls.
A good x-flow will produce almost as much power with none of the issues. A BDA will cost about the same but will produce loads more power and sound
even better. A Zetec costs peanuts, produces more power, is totally reliable and still sounds nice.
IMHO put the head on e-bay and hope someone with more ambition than sense buys it.
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bob
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 07:37 PM |
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Steve thinking about this Paul's correct with the above quote, that head could put a brand new blacktop zetec under your bonnet.
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