davidimurray
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| posted on 11/1/15 at 06:24 PM |
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Differences between 1.18l and 2l Pinto
What are the differences between a 1.8 and 2l Pinto.
Block?
Cylinder Head?
Crank?
Con Rods?
Flywheel?
Camshafts?
I am guessing that the auxiliaries like cam cover, pulleys, sump, water pumps etc are all the same?
Not had any interest in my 1800 Pinto that has come out of the car so considering breaking it for parts.
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steve m
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| posted on 11/1/15 at 06:28 PM |
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200cc
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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austin man
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| posted on 11/1/15 at 06:28 PM |
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I think the 1.8 is more derived from the CVH engine with the distributor at the front of the engine so may not have the same ancillaries
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steve m
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| posted on 11/1/15 at 06:29 PM |
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joking apart, I doubt the block or crank or conrods are the same
the other stuff maybe
Thats was probably spelt wrong, or had some grammer, that the "grammer police have to have a moan at
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davidimurray
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| posted on 11/1/15 at 06:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by austin man
I think the 1.8 is more derived from the CVH engine with the distributor at the front of the engine so may not have the same ancillaries
I think your thinking of the CVH - the 1.8 Pinto has the distributor in the same location as the others. According to Burtons the 1.8 was a
development of the 1.6 using the same rods.
Wikipedia comes up with -
code:
At the beginning of 1984 Ford Pinto engine displacement range switched from 1.3/1.6/2.0 to 1.6/1.8/2.0. The newly introduced 1.8 L engine used
the 2.0 L crankshaft, so in order to uniform engine parts for the whole range after dropping the 1.3 L — the 1.6 L was redesigned to also take the 2.0
L crankshaft which had a 76.2 mm (3.00 in) stroke.
The block is definitely different.
[Edited on 11/1/15 by davidimurray]
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snapper
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| posted on 11/1/15 at 08:34 PM |
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There are 2 x 1.8 Pinto's
The early version was built to defeat a company car tax bracket that made the 2.0L the top tax bracket
The Pinto series had capacities of 1.3, 1.6, 1.8, & 2.0L (2.3 in the USA but different block and head)
All Pinto's had the same crank
All pintos had the same block size but the block castings were different so you can't bore a smaller casting much past the over bore limits
There was an Eco 1.8 that had a different crank & stroke
You can put a 1.6 head on a 2.0l but compression ratio is to high and now the injection head is prefered as it flows better due to a better inlet port
short side turn and a slightly better port angle.
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snapper
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| posted on 11/1/15 at 08:40 PM |
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The 1.8 has some usable parts but cam, head, block are not worth anything
The first upgrade for any Pinto powered car is the 2.0L followed by the injection head
There is no point what so ever trying to make a lower capacity engine match or exceed the power of an identical sized bigger capacity engine unless
you are racing in a capacity restricted formula
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davidimurray
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| posted on 11/1/15 at 09:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
The 1.8 has some usable parts but cam, head, block are not worth anything
The first upgrade for any Pinto powered car is the 2.0L followed by the injection head
There is no point what so ever trying to make a lower capacity engine match or exceed the power of an identical sized bigger capacity engine unless
you are racing in a capacity restricted formula
Cheers - I've skipped that stage and gone straight to the Duratec 
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Memphis Twin
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| posted on 11/1/15 at 10:44 PM |
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The 1.8 (185 block) crankshaft and connecting rods are identical to the 2.0l. The 1.8 has a smaller bore at 86mm, but the stroke is the same at
76.95mm. The 1.8 crank even has 2.0 stamped on it, so do not throw it away as it's a good crank for engine builders of 2.0 litre Pintos. Also,
they have usually not been reground as most people just stick in a larger engine rather than trying to improve the 1.8.
According to Ike Flack (engine builder of great repute) the 185 block will bore to 2.0l as all the castings are the same, just with more machining out
for the 2.0l but I cannot confirm or deny this.
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SteveWalker
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| posted on 11/1/15 at 11:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Memphis Twin
The 1.8 crank even has 2.0 stamped on it
Back when I had a Sierra 1.8GL, E-reg, with a Pinto Engine, the 1.8 engine even had 2.0 cast into the block!
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BaileyPerformance
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| posted on 12/1/15 at 09:04 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by austin man
I think the 1.8 is more derived from the CVH engine with the distributor at the front of the engine so may not have the same ancillaries
Your thinking of the 1800 CVH, there is a 1800 pinto too. Very little difference between the 1800 and 2000 pinto.
The 1800 head has smaller combustion chambers than a 2000 so can be useful to use on a 2000 bottom end to raise compresson.
Thr cams are interchangeable
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davidimurray
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| posted on 12/1/15 at 10:20 AM |
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Thanks everyone - mine is a late - 1987 185 block - had hoped to sell as a complete unit as seems a shame to break it. If anyone wants any bits from a
low mileage Pinto let me know!
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