toolate
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| posted on 21/3/22 at 01:10 PM |
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Considering a Engine Swap
Hi All
I have a relatively well powered and solid 212bhp Zetec engine in my kitcar (9k on the clock from crate). I am considering moving to a 1.6 Ecoboost.
The ecoboost prices seem to be going up and up.
Wondering if anyone had done the swap. I it worth it and is there good value in my engine?
Thanks
TooLate
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big_wasa
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| posted on 21/3/22 at 01:25 PM |
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If your engine has the right bits then it has good value for the kit and classic car scene.
I would say having turbo’d a 7 it really wasn’t for me. Plumbing and heat management in such a small car is also hard work.
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toolate
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| posted on 21/3/22 at 01:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
If your engine has the right bits then it has good value for the kit and classic car scene.
I would say having turbo’d a 7 it really wasn’t for me. Plumbing and heat management in such a small car is also hard work.
Thanks for the reply.
I do know cooling can be hard work for low temps but i am seeing more threads on WSCC of people doing 1.6 conversions. Problem is a basic engine on
ebay is £1500!
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perksy
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| posted on 21/3/22 at 10:20 PM |
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Zetec is a good engine & set-up and yours has decent power in a 7 type car
Guess it depends what you want to use it for, but is it really worth all that's involved?
There's known issues with both the 1 litre and 1.6 litre Ecoboost engines (when used in their original guise) and Ford issued a recall
(Iirc BBC Watchdog covered the issue/s)
Perhaps this is why the prices for used engines has gone up ?
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Charlie_Zetec
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| posted on 23/3/22 at 12:15 PM |
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I know Westfield use the Ecoboost in their Sport 250 models, but I've also heard plenty horror stories about cracks in the bores. There is a
solution to this which involves machining and top-hat liners, but think the cost of this is about £2k.... If you're after an upgrade, think
about the (well-trodden) path or adding a turbo to the Zetec rather than whole engine swap.
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity!
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Deckman001
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| posted on 23/3/22 at 02:40 PM |
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Just a thought, check the inlet and exhaust directions across the head as I think they might be in opposite directions between a zetec and an ecoboost
engine.
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pigeondave
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| posted on 23/3/22 at 06:50 PM |
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I'd agree with perksy, you need to ask yourself what you're going to use it for.
I have a tuned 2.0 zetec in the Fury and in reality it's too quick for the road as is. I don't track it (I've done 2 track days) and
mainly use it for tour.
IMO I felt more of a hero on the old 1.8 using 3/4 throttle than in the 2.0 using 1/2.
If you're going to use it and you can deal with the hassle of an engine swap, then go for it.
You didn't say what style car.
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MagicalTrevor
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| posted on 12/5/22 at 11:51 AM |
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I have a 1.6 Ecoboost in the for sale section. https://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/34/viewthread.php?tid=219355
Fortunately, it has everything you need to fit it into your car.
Aside from the engine I'm selling, if you buy an engine straight from a Fiesta then you'll find it's very bulky with lots of bits that
aren't needed. There are vacuum pipes for emissions, a massive alternator and other bits.
SBD and Dave Gemzoe sell lots of bits that blank these things off and make the installation simpler for race car/kit car installation. It's also
highly recommended that you install a Dry Sump. They cost £2k.
If you want to chat about what I had to get to fit it all in my car then I'm happy to have a chat, whether you're interested in my engine or
not. I've got a bit of experience in the process.
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Benzine
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| posted on 12/5/22 at 12:45 PM |
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I'd keep it as is and look at electric in another 5+ years. Petrol is going to be an insane cost by then
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 12/5/22 at 02:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
I'd keep it as is and look at electric in another 5+ years. Petrol is going to be an insane cost by then
I considered that for my car - until I saw the cost of the components!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 12/5/22 at 03:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
I'd keep it as is and look at electric in another 5+ years. Petrol is going to be an insane cost by then
I considered that for my car - until I saw the cost of the components! It is quite scary stuff to work on as well, with 300v - 400v batteries,
incredibly high currents, plus controllers, chargers, etc, etc. IVA would be a nightmare as well, as they would be looking for professional
installations.
Following on from your comments about fuel cost, there will also be the problem of availability of fuel - petrol stations are already starting to
disappear (they have been for a while) and when electric cars become more common, and less fuel is sold, fewer people will want to stock it for
sale.
[Edited on 12/5/22 by David Jenkins]
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